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Old August 27th, 2008, 06:40 PM   #7261
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The one fear I have with this building is how it will translate from its rendering. As we saw, Trump Tower looks much better in person. I'm afraid this building won't look so grand in real life. I really hope they don't "smooth" the curve out and keep it as originally planned. Also, I can think of too many possible bad nicknames for this thing if it doesn't turn out too well...

I really hope they are able to give it a spire again. I'd love to see it's height lifted to 2,300 feet!
Will never happen!
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Old August 27th, 2008, 07:13 PM   #7262
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The base is so small. It looks like this building is unreal to build :P Are you sure it won't collapse? :P
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Old August 27th, 2008, 07:26 PM   #7263
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The other thing to realize is that in renderings, it does look like a drillbit. When it's actually built and is 2,000 feet high, I highly doubt it will look like anything just due too it's sheer height.
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Old August 27th, 2008, 07:46 PM   #7264
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I think it's safe to say that the Spire has the best architects and engineers involved in the project. I wouldn't worry. If the project was so unfeasible I doubt they would have gotten this far in the construction before going "Oh shit, we can't do this!"
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Old August 27th, 2008, 08:58 PM   #7265
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Without speaking for everyone on here, I think its reasonably safe to say that most people here are fairly divided into two camps:

a) it's Calatrava, and it's different, and it's tall, and I like it.
b) it's fails to live up to its potential, it doesn't fit, it looks like a giant drill bit/phallus/*****/etc.

Chicago Joe on the street generally likes the fact that another really tall building is being constructed in the city. I guess there is no general consensus, but I'd say those in favor outnumber those opposed.

Most of us fit somewhere on the option A-B spectrum here, and I find myself leaning toward A. It could be better, but it's still a very nice addition. Symbols of a city are meant to be eclipsed, or at least joined by other symbols. When you look at a picture of the Hancock under construction 40 years ago, it looks ridiculous when compared to its surroundings, yet here it is with all of these other structures that have risen up to meet it. That's what is nice about the whole process. When you've got a new landmark going up, its up to the rest of the city to make it "fit" rather than the other way around.
If I can add another.

C. it will never get built.

I am firmly in the "A" category and can't wait to see some action out there, but most people I talk to or overhear discussing this building seem pretty convinced that it'll never be built (regardless of current construction activity on the site).

There's just too much uncertainty with the market, and it's been way too long since we were told the project was moving forward for people not to be skeptical.
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Old August 27th, 2008, 09:19 PM   #7266
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Without speaking for everyone on here, I think its reasonably safe to say that most people here are fairly divided into two camps:

a) it's Calatrava, and it's different, and it's tall, and I like it.
b) it's fails to live up to its potential, it doesn't fit, it looks like a giant drill bit/phallus/*****/etc.

Chicago Joe on the street generally likes the fact that another really tall building is being constructed in the city. I guess there is no general consensus, but I'd say those in favor outnumber those opposed.

Most of us fit somewhere on the option A-B spectrum here, and I find myself leaning toward A. It could be better, but it's still a very nice addition. Symbols of a city are meant to be eclipsed, or at least joined by other symbols. When you look at a picture of the Hancock under construction 40 years ago, it looks ridiculous when compared to its surroundings, yet here it is with all of these other structures that have risen up to meet it. That's what is nice about the whole process. When you've got a new landmark going up, its up to the rest of the city to make it "fit" rather than the other way around.

Nat76. I think many in this forum would agree with you. But this has already been discussed thousands of times. Can we kindly move on. This also goes for MSU2001 and Badger. Not trying to be mean. Just saving you guys some future grief.
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Old August 27th, 2008, 09:40 PM   #7267
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it is going to be built. they are fabricating the floorplates as we speak....just not onsite yet. i don't know how kelleher's going to pay for it, but he's got the cash. the city is banking on this one getting built figuratively, though not literally to my ears. the spire is a significant salvo in chicago's effort to get the 2016 games.

addressing the other comment, 'move on' to what? he/she is expressing his/her view of the building. what do some of you think is "supposed to" happen on this site exactly? perhaps we didn't all get the special instruction kit when we joined so we could fit-in better.

please, give the attitudes a rest.....this isn't the junior high school locker room. it's a forum for fans of progressive high rises and the city of chicago.
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Old August 27th, 2008, 09:44 PM   #7268
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It won't be any higher than 2000 feet. Please view the posts above yours.
Until planes can take off and land vertically.
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Old August 27th, 2008, 10:03 PM   #7269
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Until planes can take off and land vertically.
Some can already land vertically...
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Old August 27th, 2008, 10:37 PM   #7270
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Hey damian89, how did you find those interior renders?

The Chicago Spire is the official website.
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Old August 27th, 2008, 10:58 PM   #7271
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Hey damian89, how did you find those interior renders?

The Chicago Spire is the official website.
Those are waaay old. They were posted almost a year go.
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Old August 27th, 2008, 11:10 PM   #7272
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They was posted on the first page
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Some can already land vertically...
Small planes. I don't see a boeing landing vertically :P
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Old August 27th, 2008, 11:16 PM   #7273
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Until planes can take off and land vertically.
Yes, in 2030, they can add on a 300 foot spire if they want.
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Old August 28th, 2008, 12:54 AM   #7274
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They was posted on the first page

Small planes. I don't see a boeing landing vertically :P


actually boeing made the MV-22 Osprey, although it is only used by the marines, it is a huge plane that can take off and land vertically, and in mid air the propellers turn forward so it goes faster
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Old August 28th, 2008, 01:23 AM   #7275
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The Harrier can land verticaly too. But we are going off-topic now...
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Old August 28th, 2008, 03:53 AM   #7276
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Nat76. I think many in this forum would agree with you. But this has already been discussed thousands of times. Can we kindly move on. This also goes for MSU2001 and Badger. Not trying to be mean. Just saving you guys some future grief.
Geez, I was answering a new poster's question. About a skyscaper. The Spire specifically. In Chicago. On a skyscraper board in the Chicago forum in a thread about the Spire. The novelty. I know this stuff has been posted ad nauseum on this board--it's hard not to find repetitive posts on a thread with 1200+ posts. But, if someone asks a question, I'm going to go out on a limb and say anyone can answer it without catching flack.

It's simple really...discuss the topic of the thread. If you don't agree with something someone says, tell them why, but don't tell them not to post something that relates directly to the thread topic. It's the message board equivalent of telling someone to shut up (kindly as it may be put). That is bound to rub people the wrong way.

Sorry for the interruption, back to the Spire...
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Old August 28th, 2008, 03:53 AM   #7277
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Lined up by size - awaiting a transporter ?
Note (some of) the forms for the whaler are back up on top - far left of frame.




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Old August 28th, 2008, 05:21 AM   #7278
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Harryc, that is awesome in one of your shots, you have Trump overlooking the CS.
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Old August 28th, 2008, 05:34 AM   #7279
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In a few years time it will be the Chicago Spire overlooking Trump
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