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Old March 28th, 2007, 04:52 PM   #841
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^Please, do not let David Roeder squash anyone's excitement about this project. He's one of the most pompous, bloated and worst writers of any of Chicago's daily newspapers.
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Old March 28th, 2007, 06:00 PM   #842
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Yes it does, but there IS a valid point there. Can anyone provide examples of past projects, besides Block 37 perhaps, that someone started underfunded/undersold? How many were delayed/halted due to lack of funding and sales? I'm curious to see if the Sun-Times has past history to back up their reasoning.

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Old March 28th, 2007, 07:40 PM   #843
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I'm assuming he wants to start construction to improve sales - he knows there are skeptics that won't buy a unit unless they're absolutely sure that the building won't flop, so starting the foundation work might be a way of assuring them that the building will happen.
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Old March 28th, 2007, 08:12 PM   #844
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"But it will never be built"

no!!!
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Old March 28th, 2007, 08:21 PM   #845
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The design has changed a few times, but what was the reason they gave up the spire? I didn't find anything about it.
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Old March 28th, 2007, 08:26 PM   #846
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The design has changed a few times, but what was the reason they gave up the spire? I didn't find anything about it.
Because Kelleher, who took over the project after the original developer (Carley) could not obtain financing, wanted to add more saleable space. The spire was eliminated to do so.
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Old March 28th, 2007, 08:40 PM   #847
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Thanx
I think I like the present design even more.
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Old March 28th, 2007, 09:30 PM   #848
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Yes it does, but there IS a valid point there. Can anyone provide examples of past projects, besides Block 37 perhaps, that someone started underfunded/undersold?
It happens every recession. Thousands of unfinished condo units were demolished near Lake Ray Hubbard (Dallas) after the savings & loan crisis. Royce Renaissance had a building in Oak Brook that became an eight-story pile of rusting rebar. I think there was a big one on Lincoln Park West that got caught by the 1974 recession and stood unfinished for five years. The same recession left an entire shopping mall abandoned outside Tulsa. There's a 17-story building at 6230 N. Kenmore that was abandoned in 1930 and wasn't finished until 1941!
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Old March 28th, 2007, 09:50 PM   #849
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• Chicago Spire would look spectacular from Lake Michigan if on a ship off of Navy Pier seeing the way it split the skyline in half. The view from the west (let's say from the Eisenhower, particular further into the west side where the whole skyline is better seen) would also be more pleasing. The building would add more power and grace to the already mind boggling view coming in on the Kennedy. However, I'm not so sure about the north/south views, . Is there a chance that the Chicago Spire would be so off center, so far to the right or left that the views coming inbound on the Ryan or inbound on N LSD through Lincoln Park would be, perhaps, unpleasingly off-balanced???
From the north and south will look great as well, Ed. The skyline as I would imagine it will seem to have to extreme peeks. From the sears tower sloping down and then back up again to the waterveiw then up to the trump tower and eventually continue on up to hit the second and tallest peek, the Chicago spire.
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Old March 28th, 2007, 10:16 PM   #850
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From the north and south will look great as well, Ed. The skyline as I would imagine it will seem to have to extreme peeks. From the sears tower sloping down and then back up again to the waterveiw then up to the trump tower and eventually continue on up to hit the second and tallest peek, the Chicago spire.
i hope you are right, but it still seem with such height, east and west look terrifc, but north and south seem way out of kilter.
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Old March 28th, 2007, 10:57 PM   #851
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i hope you are right, but it still seem with such height, east and west look terrifc, but north and south seem way out of kilter.
One of the things I love about the Chicago skyline is that, as you are nearing downtown, the buildings keep getting bigger and bigger and bigger. This creates the illusion that you are closer than you really are. I believe CS will amplify this effect to the nth degree. From the North, South, and West, CS will be visible due to its sheer height. Image driving into downtown and thinking you ought to be able to see CS soon. Then you get to a point where you cannot see it because other buildings are blocking it. All of a sudden, your view of CS becomes unobstructed. You never realized just how tall and massive this building is and now it is in full view with all its mindblowing glory. I believe the geographical location of CS will provide for this experience. Hopefully there won't be too many accidents on LSD.
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Old March 28th, 2007, 11:22 PM   #852
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sounds like jay mariotti
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Old March 29th, 2007, 06:56 AM   #853
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It's just barrel distortion. The actual building won't tilt.
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Old March 29th, 2007, 12:02 PM   #854
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This is really impressive!
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Old March 29th, 2007, 01:42 PM   #855
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Old March 29th, 2007, 08:21 PM   #856
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Am I alone in preferring the more twisted top? I love both versions, but something about the less twisted top screams "corporate art" to me... I can't seem to explain it better than that...
No, I am with you on that but we are in the minority so at the end of the day I hope we are wrong. I liked the crescendo effect the last version had but its not a radical departure from the previous design and this one is will more then suffice (I would actually like it 300-400ft. shorter as well) but all in all I have to say I am very happy with it.
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Old March 30th, 2007, 05:06 AM   #857
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Whoa, a lot of things happened to this building when I was gone.

I like the lastest version and Dusable Park.
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Old March 30th, 2007, 05:10 AM   #858
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Old March 30th, 2007, 12:22 PM   #859
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Whoa, a lot of things happened to this building when I was gone.

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we also had a very successful Olympics after beating out first Los Angeles and then Rio. You have to go see the Olympic Village that was left. Cool. Check out the new stadium in Washington Park, too; it's where the Chicago Cardinals play.
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Old March 30th, 2007, 12:23 PM   #860
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it is in full view with all its mindblowing glory. I believe the geographical location of CS will provide for this experience. Hopefully there won't be too many accidents on LSD.
let's just be grateful the s-turn was removed years ago.
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