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Old February 17th, 2014, 06:33 PM   #9941
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the original design had a spire, but much less floors. I think the current design fits well without a spire!
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Old February 17th, 2014, 07:04 PM   #9942
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I absolutely hated the early version with the spire. Didn't that version also have the twist get "tighter" as it went up? Hated that as well. The final version fixed all that.

-edit- I just looked at the previous versions in the first post. Just awful.

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Old February 17th, 2014, 07:14 PM   #9943
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True. This one evolved from an eye sore(s) to the masterpiece:

From this:





to THIS:

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Old February 17th, 2014, 07:18 PM   #9944
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The version with the spire just makes me think it should be possible for an architect to have his license revoked like a driver's license.
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Old February 17th, 2014, 07:27 PM   #9945
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There was a previous post about how this wont be built because the market for luxury units in Chicago is virtually non existent. I'm not denying or confirming in anyway, but what I'm curious about is why has this had so much support from government officials in the past if there is a lack of demand?

Currently today, 2/17/14, there is not enough demand which is one of the reasons this building isn't under construction, the other being the fight taking place in the courts over the land. However, there was demand in 2008, right before the great recession, which is why the building broke ground and 400 units, including the $40 mil penthouse, pre-sold in just 4 months.

The developer obviously believes that even though the demand isn't there today, (2/17/14) doesn't mean demand won't be there a year or two from now. So he's obviously positioning himself for when demand is there a couple years from now. That's how real estate works and it's not that hard of a concept to understand.

Right now, there is almost no new or new luxury condos in downtown Chicago. So there is a small pent up demand that will only grow in the next couple of years, considering there's nothing of significant size under construction or even proposed for downtown at the moment.
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Old February 17th, 2014, 07:31 PM   #9946
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[QUOTE=patrykus;111498894]True. This one evolved from an eye sore(s) to the masterpiece:

From this:





This was my favorite edition.
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Old February 17th, 2014, 09:28 PM   #9947
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That's the worst version. 'Unicorn Tower'
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Old February 17th, 2014, 09:33 PM   #9948
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I agree. That spire is disproportional and misplaced.
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Old February 17th, 2014, 09:34 PM   #9949
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Never really liked this design with the giant spire on top, mainly because I think slapping a 200 or 300 ft spire on building is kind of cheating with the height, have always thought that. Even with the Trump Tower in Chicago, a building I love, the only reason its the second tallest in the city is that "spire" on top. So the final design is much more appealing cause its actually goes up to 2000 ft.
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Old February 17th, 2014, 10:01 PM   #9950
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Not the best comparison in my opinion because Trump Tower's spire is actually integrated well into the design and looks like it belongs there rather than just being randomly slapped on top for the hell of it.
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Old February 17th, 2014, 10:11 PM   #9951
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True. This one evolved from an eye sore(s) to the masterpiece:

From this:





This was my favorite edition.
While not very fond of the spire, I do prefer that the top of the building (without the spire) in this version. The most recent version makes it look too much like a drill.
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Old February 17th, 2014, 10:17 PM   #9952
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I don't mind the drill look at all, it gives it a sense of aiming skyward. Sense of movement.
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Old February 17th, 2014, 10:25 PM   #9953
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Never really liked this design with the giant spire on top, mainly because I think slapping a 200 or 300 ft spire on building is kind of cheating with the height, have always thought that. Even with the Trump Tower in Chicago, a building I love, the only reason its the second tallest in the city is that "spire" on top. So the final design is much more appealing cause its actually goes up to 2000 ft.
It's the second tallest in the city without the spire too but I agree still
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Old February 17th, 2014, 11:38 PM   #9954
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It's the second tallest in the city without the spire too but I agree still
Oh yea, you're right, for some reason I thought it was third without spire, my bad. Even Trump himself wasn't a fan of the spire, he didn't want it but it was Mayor Daley that "ordered b him to include it. Don't get me wrong though, I love the building despite my views on spires.
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Old February 18th, 2014, 02:20 AM   #9955
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http://1.2.3.10/bmi/i.imgur.com/4HaSwYl.jpg

Anyway I really hope we are going to hear more good news about the Spire soon. This needs to move forward.
thanks for the link but unfortunately the link does not work
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Old February 18th, 2014, 02:30 AM   #9956
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thanks for the link but unfortunately the link does not work
Hmm, works for me. Go back to post #9891: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=9891
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Old February 18th, 2014, 02:41 AM   #9957
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The costs of building this tower in its most recent form is somewhere in the range of $2-2.5 Billion. Currently only 1/5 of that financing is in place. Where is the rest of it going to come from?

Chicago isn't a global destination for the super rich to invest in real estate like NYC or London. I can't see this tower seeing the light of day without a reduction in height or a major downgrade in design and facade.
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Old February 18th, 2014, 02:52 AM   #9958
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http://my.chicagotribune.com/#sectio.../p2p-79337535/
Spire financing draws objection
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Old February 18th, 2014, 03:11 AM   #9959
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The costs of building this tower in its most recent form is somewhere in the range of $2-2.5 Billion. Currently only 1/5 of that financing is in place. Where is the rest of it going to come from?

Chicago isn't a global destination for the super rich to invest in real estate like NYC or London. I can't see this tower seeing the light of day without a reduction in height or a major downgrade in design and facade.
Very true, I don't think there's much of a chance at all to see this how it was supposed to be originally but even with a major height reduction and design change it could still be quite tall and good looking. We'll just have to wait and see
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Old February 18th, 2014, 03:17 AM   #9960
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Hmm, works for me. Go back to post #9891: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=9891
ok got it now, thanks for that! now I have an awesome desktop.
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