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Old June 2nd, 2007, 08:42 AM   #1601
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I like it!

It's a very innovative and different design, especially the bottom with the sphere. Acutally, it kind of reminds me of Two International Finance Centre in Hong Kong, but a fancier version.
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Old June 2nd, 2007, 01:08 PM   #1602
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I have two questions.

How far away is the horizon in a 2000ft building - supposing a totally flat surrounding landscape?

...and conversely

How far away would Chicago Spire be visible on a clear day?
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Old June 2nd, 2007, 03:39 PM   #1603
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i guess it'll be visible far over 50km but less then 100km.
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Old June 3rd, 2007, 07:42 AM   #1604
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Well, considering you can see the Sears Tower and a few other buildings from Michigan on a clear day then....probably from Canada
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Old June 3rd, 2007, 08:48 AM   #1605
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Well, considering you can see the Sears Tower and a few other buildings from Michigan on a clear day then....probably from Canada
Haha, don't be ridiculous. Maybe Gary at the very best. You can barely see the skyline from the skyway bridge.
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Old June 3rd, 2007, 09:38 AM   #1606
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Yes, you CAN see Chicago from Michigan. Personally, I have seen Chicago from Indiana, east of Gary, but I haven't tried from Michigan. However, I have seen several pics of Chicago that were taken from Michigan. From where I saw the skyline in Indiana, I thought it was reasonable to assume that on a clear day, I could have seen it from much farther.
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Old June 3rd, 2007, 09:59 AM   #1607
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Yea, you can see the skyline pretty clearly on a clear day from the Dunes Lakeshore which is east of Gary. I am guessing that you will be able to see the CS on a clear day from say New Buffalo or Warren Dunes Michigan (the very bottom of southwest Michigan for those who don't know).

Depending on the strength of the light they put on top I think across the lake one may be able to see it a good 60-70 miles out at night. It may end up looking like the biggest and tallest mother of a lighthouse one could imagine. It should at least be very visiable from the middle of the lake lined up east/west of it.
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Old June 3rd, 2007, 04:41 PM   #1608
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I have two questions.

How far away is the horizon in a 2000ft building - supposing a totally flat surrounding landscape?

...and conversely

How far away would Chicago Spire be visible on a clear day?
Hey - its a lazy sunday afternoon and i decided to work it out.

From http://science.howstuffworks.com/question198.htm

Approximate distance to horizon (in miles) = SquareRoot(height above surface (in feet) / 0.5736)

This means that from 2000 ft up the horizon is 59 miles away. So conversely you should be able to see the building from over 59 miles away. Of course you could see it from further away if you find a high vantage point.

It shows nomarandlee and zz were pretty accurate with their assumptions.
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Old June 3rd, 2007, 05:09 PM   #1609
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Hey - its a lazy sunday afternoon and i decided to work it out.

From http://science.howstuffworks.com/question198.htm

Approximate distance to horizon (in miles) = SquareRoot(height above surface (in feet) / 0.5736)

This means that from 2000 ft up the horizon is 59 miles away. So conversely you should be able to see the building from over 59 miles away. Of course you could see it from further away if you find a high vantage point.

It shows nomarandlee and zz were pretty accurate with their assumptions.
Thanks.

59 miles = 95 kilometres

Are there any mountains or high vantage points within 59 miles of Chicago? I think it is fairly flat around Chicago and surrounding areas.
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Old June 3rd, 2007, 06:55 PM   #1610
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Thanks.

59 miles = 95 kilometres

Are there any mountains or high vantage points within 59 miles of Chicago? I think it is fairly flat around Chicago and surrounding areas.
Chicagoland and the USA's midwest is generally very flat. The downwind Lake Michigan dunes area (the Indiana and southwest Michigan shoreline area) is about the hilliest within view of the city.

The land west, southwest and south of the city and its suburbs is pool-table flat.

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Old June 3rd, 2007, 08:06 PM   #1611
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project started yet???
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Old June 3rd, 2007, 08:09 PM   #1612
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Hey - its a lazy sunday afternoon and i decided to work it out.

From http://science.howstuffworks.com/question198.htm

Approximate distance to horizon (in miles) = SquareRoot(height above surface (in feet) / 0.5736)

This means that from 2000 ft up the horizon is 59 miles away. So conversely you should be able to see the building from over 59 miles away. Of course you could see it from further away if you find a high vantage point.

It shows nomarandlee and zz were pretty accurate with their assumptions.
Yup - I can see the CN tower ( 1815') from 50 miles on a clear day with the right light.
So for 2,000' yeah, 59 miles sounds right.
With unusually very very clear air and sun at your back with binoculars, I'd venture to say 100 miles.
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Old June 4th, 2007, 08:07 AM   #1613
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Here you go...one from Benton Harbor, MI. I count about 61 miles away. (this was taken by my bro from a plane about 500 ft up or so).

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Old June 4th, 2007, 08:30 AM   #1614
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I used to read electric meters in Benton Harbor. There were a couple of places from which I could see a couple of Chicago buildings poking out of the water.
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Old June 4th, 2007, 07:18 PM   #1615
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is the final version 610m and 150 floors? (actually saying about the approved version)
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Old June 4th, 2007, 07:33 PM   #1616
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yes it is
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Old June 5th, 2007, 12:40 AM   #1617
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i can't see so far away from Montmartre in paris ... TT
Maybe in two or three century when we will build something else that the eifel tower, we may will be able to see something else that our feet

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vive PHARE (300m max) TT
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Old June 5th, 2007, 12:45 AM   #1618
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OMG bneidlinger! Can you please edit that post and link the picture. It's waaay too big to hotlink in the thread and is slowing everything down. Thanks.
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Old June 5th, 2007, 01:59 AM   #1619
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I can see it, bneidlinger.
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Old June 5th, 2007, 05:47 AM   #1620
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I can see it, bneidlinger.
I can see it too. That's the problem.
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