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Old June 13th, 2007, 12:10 AM   #1721
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This has been posted before here, but I thought it was worth another look:

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Old June 13th, 2007, 04:49 AM   #1722
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Let me clarify...I DO love the Spire and I'm happy as hell that it is getting built. I'm just saying that it doesn't fit in with the existing skyline. Look at this picture for a second:



All you focus on is the Spire. It stands out from all the other buildings because of how different in style it is and its location. If they built a 2000 ft tower that was black and boxy, it would blend in more. I'm not saying for a second that I want that however. The Space Needle doesn't "blend in" with the Seattle skyline. The Eiffel Tower doesn't "blend in" with the Paris skyline. That's all I'm saying. It doesn't mean these aren't wonderful projects.

I think once it's done, the Chicago skyline will be much better for it. I guess for now it just seems odd not to be focusing on Sears or JHC.
Possibly.

But what do you think Sears, the Hancock and AON did when they were completed? They were scale busting modern bohemouths of their day and age. They diverted peoples attention away from classical buildings in the skyline.

It's just progress. A new day and age. Forward thinking.

If we lived in the past or didn't move forward, we have a skyline like San Francisco.

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I have to agree. I mean, its a nice tower but when you put a 2000 foot tower in the middle of classic pre-modern architecture, it just doesnt fit in.

Most of these buildings were built from the early to mid 1900's. which produced simple but elegant architecture. This building is post 21st century almost futuristic architecture, that puts Chicago's remaining classics like the Sears Tower in its shadow. But I personally think it was Caltravara's intentions from the beggining to produce a building that stood out from the rest, And this building definately accomplishes it.
But when they were built they were modern for the most part. As I said before; Sears, Aon and Hancock took away attention from other buildinggs in the skyline. Modern and art-deco buildings to attention away from classical and beaux-arts structures which took attention away from the Chicago School Style.

Again---progress......

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Old June 13th, 2007, 06:10 AM   #1723
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I believe its a welcome addition to the skyline, it soars right in the middle of the city coastline. Sears was on the other end so it didn't really culminate as the centerpiece of Chicago, since we had Aon and Hancock which were spaced well, and did not look small compared to Sears.
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Old June 13th, 2007, 06:17 AM   #1724
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Old June 13th, 2007, 02:17 PM   #1725
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Old June 13th, 2007, 02:49 PM   #1726
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http://www.suntimes.com/business/roe...eder13.article

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GREAT QUESTION: A reader called asking when the Chicago Spire will have its groundbreaking. Developer Garrett Kelleher's attorney, Thomas Murphy, said there won't be any ceremonial kickoff for the 150-story building.

A little excavation for soil testing already has gone on, Murphy said, and a contractor for the rock caissons and the foundation should be hired any day now. Murphy also said Kelleher has leased a full floor in the nearby NBC Tower for a sales center that will open in September and will overlook the property. Spire architect Santiago Calatrava is completing a model condo that will be part of the sales center, Murphy said.

"We're not into groundbreakings. We're into ribbon-cuttings," Murphy said, looking ahead to a shindig the developer could have when the building is finished. Murphy's forecast is that the ribbon-cutting will be four years from now. Maybe the Chicago Mercantile Exchange could offer a "spire futures" contract.




It will be a race to the finish in 2011, to see if the CS ofr the Freedom Tower will be completed first.
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Old June 13th, 2007, 07:19 PM   #1727
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June 13, 2007
DAVID ROEDER [email protected]

GREAT QUESTION: A reader called asking when the Chicago Spire will have its groundbreaking. Developer Garrett Kelleher's attorney, Thomas Murphy, said there won't be any ceremonial kickoff for the 150-story building.

A little excavation for soil testing already has gone on, Murphy said, and a contractor for the rock caissons and the foundation should be hired any day now. Murphy also said Kelleher has leased a full floor in the nearby NBC Tower for a sales center that will open in September and will overlook the property. Spire architect Santiago Calatrava is completing a model condo that will be part of the sales center, Murphy said.

"We're not into groundbreakings. We're into ribbon-cuttings," Murphy said, looking ahead to a shindig the developer could have when the building is finished. Murphy's forecast is that the ribbon-cutting will be four years from now. Maybe the Chicago Mercantile Exchange could offer a "spire futures" contract.




It will be a race to the finish in 2011, to see if the CS ofr the Freedom Tower will be completed first.
If you can swing it, this is the way to do a high profile development, break ground, then build a sales center across the street from which prosective buyers can watch the project rise and know that it's happening.
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Old June 13th, 2007, 07:54 PM   #1728
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The design change altered the twist to be consolidated towards the base of the building, which was also wider than the original plan. Additionally, the spire no longer tapered at the top, resulting in increased floor space and more total floors. It's difficult to build it but I hope you will success.
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Old June 13th, 2007, 10:41 PM   #1729
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Look at this picture for a second:



All you focus on is the Spire. It stands out from all the other buildings because of how different in style it is and its location.
Wrong. It stands out and draws focus because this is a promotional rendering designed to do just that. I doubt very much that the building will glow as if it were sheethed in radioactive anodized aluminum.

Besides, most people except for a few boaters will ever see the skyline from this vantage point. I'd be more concerned with how it will look from places people actually are. This is a more fair rendering of how things will look to the average person, because at least most people are able to make it out to the Adler Planetarium to get this classic postcard shot.
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Old June 14th, 2007, 02:42 PM   #1730
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So it'd be like lake point tower, not regularly shaped yet still fits in.
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Old June 14th, 2007, 07:21 PM   #1731
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Who cares!!! Its gonna be built, and its gonna look like a screw.
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Old June 14th, 2007, 10:49 PM   #1732
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The guys and gals at SSP has already moved tp ChiSpire's status as "site prep". Watch out!
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Old June 14th, 2007, 10:54 PM   #1733
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i really like it. well done chicago
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Old June 14th, 2007, 11:12 PM   #1734
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Few photos from 06/12/07





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Old June 15th, 2007, 12:40 AM   #1735
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Old June 15th, 2007, 01:25 AM   #1736
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Old June 15th, 2007, 01:27 AM   #1737
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Old June 15th, 2007, 02:35 AM   #1738
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Old June 15th, 2007, 02:35 AM   #1739
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Old June 15th, 2007, 04:08 AM   #1740
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I don't even think that they have gotten or even applied for a building permit. I believe I remember reading that they would piece meal the permit several floors at a time - I'm not sure what they pre-arranged with DCAP.
I believe that foundation permits have already been applied for.


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