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Old November 25th, 2007, 07:19 PM   #201
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A random assortment of Freeways In Australia from Flickr
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What are those lanes on the very side for? Ambulances? For cars to stop? Bikes?
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Old November 25th, 2007, 07:46 PM   #202
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Emergency lanes on both sides are common when a road has more than 3 or 4 lanes per direction in one row (not parallel configurations).
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Old November 25th, 2007, 10:49 PM   #203
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That freeway is now more than 30 years old.
I wonder if Radi would consider this smooth enough and the barriers shiny enough though. Before giving our stamp of approval.
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Old November 26th, 2007, 04:42 AM   #204
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What are those lanes on the very side for? Ambulances? For cars to stop? Bikes?
Yeah, as Chris said, these are just emergency lanes. In Ontario, many highways also have large shoulders in the middle of the road. It probably has to do with the fact that both in Australia and in Canada we have tonnes of space, so why not? In Europe they also exist on larger motorways, but not as common from what I've seen (probably due to space constraints).
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Old November 27th, 2007, 11:18 AM   #205
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Emergency lanes on both sides are common when a road has more than 3 or 4 lanes per direction in one row (not parallel configurations).
Also because Aussies favorite lanes is the right lane. Look at most the pics. Probably also why the speeds are so slow yet so many accidents.
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Old November 28th, 2007, 09:17 AM   #206
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Sticking to the left lane is only really a requirement on roads outside of urban areas (where there is a need to overtake slower vehicles like trucks or tractors) - the urban freeways are fine with their current speed limits, for example in Melbourne the speed limit varies between 60 and 100km/h using LED speed signs. The West Gate Freeway's maximum speed limit was reduced to 80km/h from 100km/h because of its traffic volume and the closely spaced exits and entrances which causes a lot of weaving.

It's important to note that Australia has a high road accident rate but fatal accidents generally occur when cars are driving through country roads, where all roads have a 100km/h limit (unless otherwise signed, which isn't common) regardless of quality and some drivers are dumb enough to ignore the advisory speeds posted on warning signs near curves or are unable to drive according to the conditions (darkness, rain, fog, etc).
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Old November 28th, 2007, 11:17 AM   #207
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Sticking to the left lane is only really a requirement on roads outside of urban areas (where there is a need to overtake slower vehicles like trucks or tractors) - the urban freeways are fine with their current speed limits, for example in Melbourne the speed limit varies between 60 and 100km/h using LED speed signs. The West Gate Freeway's maximum speed limit was reduced to 80km/h from 100km/h because of its traffic volume and the closely spaced exits and entrances which causes a lot of weaving.

It's important to note that Australia has a high road accident rate but fatal accidents generally occur when cars are driving through country roads, where all roads have a 100km/h limit (unless otherwise signed, which isn't common) regardless of quality and some drivers are dumb enough to ignore the advisory speeds posted on warning signs near curves or are unable to drive according to the conditions (darkness, rain, fog, etc).
While I agree that most accidents happen in rural areas. Nowhere in Australian road rules does it state that keeping left is only for rural areas. Any road with a speed limit above 80km or with keep left signs, it is illegal to be in the right lane EXCEPT for overtaking. Demerit points 2, fine $150. ANY person that has driven for any amount of time in a country where the majority do follow these laws will know what a difference they make to traffic flow and congestion, even in the conditions you describe. Usually even with many more cars per hour.

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Old November 28th, 2007, 12:35 PM   #208
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Motorways/Freeways/Expressways are always the most safe roads to travel on. Okay, more accidents happens in numbers, but it is by far more save by mileage than any other road.
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Old November 29th, 2007, 03:04 PM   #209
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While I agree that most accidents happen in rural areas. Nowhere in Australian road rules does it state that keeping left is only for rural areas. Any road with a speed limit above 80km or with keep left signs, it is illegal to be in the right lane EXCEPT for overtaking. Demerit points 2, fine $150. ANY person that has driven for any amount of time in a country where the majority do follow these laws will know what a difference they make to traffic flow and congestion, even in the conditions you describe. Usually even with many more cars per hour.
But enforcement and observance of that rule is zero, in urban areas in Victoria anyway.
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Old December 1st, 2007, 03:57 PM   #210
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Have you ever driven in Europe, If you have you would understand how much better roads flow, and how much congestion is avoided through this simple rule... or should I say courteosy. Driving in Aus seems all about "**** everyone else, why should I give way, let in, move over, have any ******* manners what so ever."
Much of the congestion in Australia is self inflicted by the drivers not the roads.
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Old December 3rd, 2007, 03:11 AM   #211
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Nice set of pictures.
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It's important to note that Australia has a high road accident rate but fatal accidents generally occur when cars are driving through country roads, where all roads have a 100km/h limit (unless otherwise signed, which isn't common) regardless of quality and some drivers are dumb enough to ignore the advisory speeds posted on warning signs near curves or are unable to drive according to the conditions (darkness, rain, fog, etc).
Yes, and lots of wildlife in the outback. I personally killed already two kangaroos. And one smashed with its head into the water tank for the wipers. Luckily nothing serious.
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Old December 25th, 2007, 05:23 PM   #214
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Old December 28th, 2007, 07:44 AM   #215
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I really like the Sydney shots.
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Old January 4th, 2008, 11:06 PM   #216
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hasnt australia got a lot of projects for roads int he future.i seem to remember reading something about sydney will have a complete motorway 5 -15 years.and gateway bridge project looks amazing.keep them coming.
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Old January 4th, 2008, 11:24 PM   #217
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heres some more




http://http://dart.net.au/~krool/photos/index.htm





that link goes to good website showing pictures of australias roads.
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Old January 4th, 2008, 11:26 PM   #218
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heres some more




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that link goes to good website showing pictures of australias roads.
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