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Old March 2nd, 2009, 01:43 PM   #441
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I think so too.
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Old March 2nd, 2009, 01:50 PM   #442
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Just finished making this in Inkscape:

[IMG]http://i40.************/10oib94.png[/IMG]

If anybody would like a copy of the source SVG file, let me know and I'll upload it.
Excellent work Robosteve. It would be nice to see a Melbourne version if you're ever feeling bored and creative

Sydney has some damn sexy tunnels.
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Old March 2nd, 2009, 04:54 PM   #443
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Not as much of a grid motorway system as I thought.
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Old March 2nd, 2009, 08:40 PM   #444
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The M5 between Heathcote Rd and Moorebank Ave is 3-3 and between Moorebank Ave and Hume Hwy (over Goerges River) is 4-4
Ah, I wasn't aware of that. I don't often drive the M5; if I'm going to the F5 from where I live it takes about equally as long to take the M2/M7 as it does the Harbour Tunnel/M5, and the M7 is a nicer drive than going through an assortment of tunnels. Although I do think that section is short enough that the number of through lanes per direction is arguably still two.
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Old March 2nd, 2009, 08:55 PM   #445
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After checking Google, I changed the part between Moorebank Avenue and Hume Highway to 2x3. The outside lanes of the 2x4 section are very short (no more than a couple of hundred metres) and only lead onto exit ramps so I don't consider them through lanes.

[IMG]http://i41.************/n1z2oo.jpg[/IMG]
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Old March 3rd, 2009, 12:26 PM   #447
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Thanks for the great pictures, Lijman! I love that freeway, I don't drive it often enough.

Here you can see what could have been Sydney's freeway system, if the government hadn't decided to scrap its existing plans and build an orbital instead in the 1970s/1980s:

[IMG]http://i42.************/xf7whj.png[/IMG]
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Old March 3rd, 2009, 01:03 PM   #450
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Is the eastern end of the F5/M5 corridor through Wolli Creek still intact? I'm not sure about the northern end of the F6 either, as it is now occupied by Sydney Park.
As far as I'm aware, the reserves for both roads are still intact up to Huntley Street, Alexandria. I may be wrong, though; I'm relying on what I read on OzRoads and the "Proposed Freeway" route shown in my 2000 Gregory's street directory (I switched to using Sydway after this, so I don't have a more recent one).

Apparently they built the M5 East underground for environmental reasons, even though the western half of the tunnel simply runs underneath the gazetted freeway corridor on the surface.
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Old March 3rd, 2009, 02:49 PM   #451
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Great photos, Lijman!

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Tweed Shire is in NSW, not Queensland. I assume you're referring to the lights at the Pacific Highway and Terranora Road, Banora Point (Sextons Hill). I wouldn't describe this section of highway as limited-access either, as there are a number of houses fronting the road, with driveways leading straight onto it. Unless of course you're talking about the former set of lights at Stewarts Road and the Pacific Motorway, QLD, which was grade-seperated as part of the Tugun bypass.
Re Tweed, I know - I meant that it I had listed it under the city of "Gold Coast, QLD".

Anyway, you're right about it not being limited-access, so I've excluded the 1km or so.
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Old March 4th, 2009, 01:34 PM   #452
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Excellent work Robosteve. It would be nice to see a Melbourne version if you're ever feeling bored and creative
I'm trying to make a Melbourne version, but having never driven in Melbourne personally I'm having to resort to Google's satellite imagery, which shows the Eastlink when it was still under construction. Does anybody know how many lanes the Eastlink has? Is it 2x3 for its entire length?
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I think this is correct for EastLink:

Springvale Road to Maroondah Hwy: 3 lanes (per carriageway)
Maroondah Hwy to Canterbury Rd: 4 lanes
Canterbury Rd to Wellington Rd: 3 lanes
Wellington Rd to Princes Hwy: 4 lanes
Princes Hwy to Dandenong Southern Bypass: 3 lanes
Dandenong Southern Bypass to Greens Rd: 4 lanes
Greens Rd to Thompsons Rd: 3 lanes
Thompsons Rd to Frankston Fwy: 2 lanes

Note that the 4th lane is effectively an auxiliary lane.


Also different to Google Earth images are changes due to the M1 Upgrade:

South Gippsland Freeway to High Street: 4 lanes (part of 4 lane already open)
High Street to Toorak Rd: 5 lanes
Toorak Rd to Burnley: 4 lanes
Burnley to Todd Rd: variable is the best way to describe it, particularly between the CityLink tunnels and Todd Rd
Todd Rd to Williamstown Rd (West Gate Bridge): 5 lanes

One further change is on the M79 Calder Freeway:
Western Ring Road to Melton Hwy outbound is now 3 lanes (but no shoulder)
Green Gully Rd to Western Ring Rd inbound is also 3 lanes
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Old March 4th, 2009, 02:25 PM   #454
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I think this is correct for EastLink:

Springvale Road to Maroondah Hwy: 3 lanes (per carriageway)
Maroondah Hwy to Canterbury Rd: 4 lanes
Canterbury Rd to Wellington Rd: 3 lanes
Wellington Rd to Princes Hwy: 4 lanes
Princes Hwy to Dandenong Southern Bypass: 3 lanes
Dandenong Southern Bypass to Greens Rd: 4 lanes
Greens Rd to Thompsons Rd: 3 lanes
Thompsons Rd to Frankston Fwy: 2 lanes

Note that the 4th lane is effectively an auxiliary lane.


Also different to Google Earth images are changes due to the M1 Upgrade:

South Gippsland Freeway to High Street: 4 lanes (part of 4 lane already open)
High Street to Toorak Rd: 5 lanes
Toorak Rd to Burnley: 4 lanes
Burnley to Todd Rd: variable is the best way to describe it, particularly between the CityLink tunnels and Todd Rd
Todd Rd to Williamstown Rd (West Gate Bridge): 5 lanes

One further change is on the M79 Calder Freeway:
Western Ring Road to Melton Hwy outbound is now 3 lanes (but no shoulder)
Green Gully Rd to Western Ring Rd inbound is also 3 lanes
Thanks for the info, I'll be sure to include that stuff in the map. I haven't been counting auxiliary lanes, only through lanes, otherwise roads like the northwestern part of the M80 would be constantly changing their number of lanes between intersections.
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Old March 5th, 2009, 02:12 AM   #455
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Driving video: City-West Link Road / Western Distributor eastbound
Waratah Street, Haberfield to Bradfield Highway, Millers Point

Length: 8.2 km / 9:55 (average speed 50 km/h)
Date: Saturday, 28th February, 2009
Time: 16:00 (approx.)

Route:

[IMG]http://i41.************/2qiz6z7.png[/IMG]



I captured this after filming the M4 last weekend, on my way home. The road from 5:20 onwards was also featured in the first video I posted, but this one shows it during the day.
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Old March 5th, 2009, 03:08 AM   #456
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Very nice entrance into the city, especially the last part is very urban. Btw, I think there are too many information traffic signs along roads.
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Old March 8th, 2009, 06:59 PM   #457
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Image set: Princes Highway, Kiama to F6 Southern Freeway

Date: Sunday, 8th March, 2009
Time: 16:30 (approx.)

Route taken (24.4 km):
[IMG]http://i39.************/34zzn8x.png[/IMG]

Total images for this route: 52

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1. Approaching the Kiama exit, southbound.

[img]http://i42.************/2safrbq.jpg[/img]

2. We want to take this exit so that we can turn around.

[img]http://i42.************/2s9q1ad.jpg[/img]

3. Passing under the highway and approaching Spring Creek Road, which acts as a slip road for access to the Princes Highway.

[img]http://i44.************/2emg11c.jpg[/img]

4. The turn onto Spring Creek Road.

[img]http://i41.************/10xzl9z.jpg[/img]

5. Sydney is 129 kilometres away.

[img]http://i43.************/14crznd.jpg[/img]

6. Princes Highway (National Route 1). To the left of the motor vehicle lanes is a bicycle lane, so this is technically not a motorway.

[img]http://i43.************/fw0nyh.jpg[/img]

7. Sunday afternoon traffic; people returning home from their weekend vacations.

[img]http://i41.************/1z1ww7n.jpg[/img]

8. Rest area signage.

[img]http://i40.************/2ic9jtl.jpg[/img]

9. 5 tonne limit for access to rest area.

[img]http://i43.************/jtvxue.jpg[/img]

10. Speed limit 100 km/h.

[img]http://i42.************/ofyt13.jpg[/img]

11. Actual speed of traffic.

[img]http://i40.************/2hwd9aa.jpg[/img]

12. "Keep Left Unless Overtaking" sign.

[img]http://i44.************/245wmx5.jpg[/img]

13. Tabbitta Road (State Route 151) exit signage. For some reason, there is no control city signed here for National Route 1.

[img]http://i41.************/2m3fuiq.jpg[/img]

14. Now we see the cause of the traffic jam.

[img]http://i39.************/ezpie8.jpg[/img]

15. One of several cuttings along this road, which allow it to pass through very hilly terrain.

[img]http://i42.************/w2gcbk.jpg[/img]

16. One kilometre later, and there are now two destinations signed for National Route 1.

[img]http://i41.************/96c0go.jpg[/img]

17. 60 km/h road work speed limit.

[img]http://i39.************/2rxef6c.jpg[/img]

18. "Reduce Speed" sign, which I passed at around 10 km/h.

[img]http://i39.************/10olbpf.jpg[/img]

19. This motorcyclist had an easy time getting through the traffic.

[img]http://i43.************/2ywe0bc.jpg[/img]

20. Here, two lanes merge into one.

[img]http://i44.************/29olqpf.jpg[/img]

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Old March 8th, 2009, 07:06 PM   #458
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Oh very good!

What's with the double shoulder marking? The roads look very well maintained though.

Little tip; zoom the camera a bit in, usually 2x is already enough to not get the interior on it. The problem is that it might focus on the interior or the windshield instead of the landscape/road.
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Old March 8th, 2009, 07:13 PM   #459
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21. Tabbitta Road exit signage, with the State Route 151 shield coverplated for some reason.

[img]http://i42.************/kf5qoy.jpg[/img]

22. The exit itself.

[img]http://i42.************/n9a1g.jpg[/img]

23. We continue north on what will soon become the northbound carriageway of a 2x2 highway.

[img]http://i41.************/if7wd1.jpg[/img]

24. Southbound bridge under construction.

[img]http://i39.************/99j3wh.jpg[/img]

25. Here you can see the U/C southbound carriageway.

[IMG]http://i43.************/xddqon.jpg[/IMG]

26. What appears to be some sort of U/C interchange.

[img]http://i43.************/j59eeo.jpg[/img]

27. Here, the current highway alignment diverges from the new one.

[img]http://i44.************/2qxahyo.jpg[/img]

28. A view of the construction site.

[img]http://i43.************/2qxc0v5.jpg[/img]

29. And another.

[img]http://i41.************/rtfbd4.jpg[/img]

30. The current 1+1 Princes Highway.

[img]http://i43.************/9gekbr.jpg[/img]

31. 65 km/h curve.

[img]http://i43.************/fyo66g.jpg[/img]

32. The curve itself.

[img]http://i41.************/ae1n9g.jpg[/img]

33. I wonder if they contracted a Belgian company to organise the roadworks?

[img]http://i40.************/25fu1lk.jpg[/img]

34. 55 km/h S-bend.

[img]http://i44.************/9k2n4p.jpg[/img]

35. On the S-bend itself.

[img]http://i39.************/1jx6r5.jpg[/img]

36. The new U/C highway again.

[img]http://i42.************/ifveo3.jpg[/img]

37. The new highway embankment.

[img]http://i40.************/315e6pk.jpg[/img]

38. The new highway alignment.

[img]http://i40.************/10pc391.jpg[/img]

39. Now we are driving on what will be the southbound carriageway of a 2x2 highway, with the northbound carriageway under construction.

[img]http://i43.************/zjb8sy.jpg[/img]

40. Traffic is beginning to flow more smoothly now that we are past the bulk of the roadworks.

[IMG]http://i39.************/t7lemp.jpg[/IMG]

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41. State Route 157 signage.

[img]http://i43.************/2rnu44x.jpg[/img]

42. This section of the highway is completed.

[img]http://i41.************/2dr9y6r.jpg[/img]

43. Back on 2x2.

[img]http://i39.************/2rnvolz.jpg[/img]

44. And we're past the roadworks.

[img]http://i39.************/288599h.jpg[/img]

45. Sydney is another 102 km away. This sounds like it should take about an hour, but keep in mind that the F6 was never built inside the Sydney metropolitan area, except for a single bridge that doesn't connect to anything useful, so in actuality it would be a 90 minute drive if traffic is good.

[img]http://i42.************/10hoytt.jpg[/img]

46. This is just typical of our government. They're upgrading the highway to limited access, grade separated 2x2 south of here, but then there's this crap before you get to the freeway. There is land reserved for a freeway bypass of Albion Park Rail connecting directly onto the existing F6, but no plans to actually build the thing.

[img]http://i44.************/r6z3tc.jpg[/img]

47. Approaching the only roundabout between Sydney and Bomaderry, a distance of 158 km.

[img]http://i42.************/24263jb.jpg[/img]

48. This is a very odd junction. It's a roundabout most of the time, but when traffic is heavy enough they'll turn on the traffic lights. Fortunately, southbound traffic doesn't have to use this roundabout, as there is a two-lane slip road in that direction. But again, there's land reserved for a bypass of all this.

[img]http://i43.************/2wrhst0.jpg[/img]

49. And we're back to grade separated 2x2.

[img]http://i44.************/9zsima.jpg[/img]

50. You can see the carriageways diverging here, which is where the Albion Park Rail bypass will join the existing highway if it ever gets built.

[img]http://i40.************/155mpuh.jpg[/img]

51. The old Princes Highway diverges from National Route 1 here, with the latter becoming the F6 Southern Freeway. Unless I'm much mistaken, the Princes Highway should be signed here as State Route 60.

[img]http://i39.************/xqkwsk.jpg[/img]

52. On the F6 itself, which is where I stopped taking pictures for a while.

[img]http://i39.************/2uotoi1.jpg[/img]


I do have some more pictures to post, they just aren't immediately following these, so I'll post them tomorrow as a separate set.
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