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Old December 18th, 2017, 04:10 PM   #1281
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it's because a lot of their highways are in extremely urban areas - often heading right into downtowns. Most American and Canadian agencies don't even bother attempting to build highways like that, and when they do, they are equally political. The low impact highways (rural ones) seem to be generally non political, just like in the Americas.
It's the rural highways here that are the biggest waste of money though. Just look at that proposal for a 3 level stack in Perth, Tasmania a few pages back.

I mean seriously, a 3 level stack in rural NSW would be overkill, let alone Tasmania.

Pure porkbarelling.
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Old December 18th, 2017, 06:44 PM   #1282
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It's the rural highways here that are the biggest waste of money though. Just look at that proposal for a 3 level stack in Perth, Tasmania a few pages back.

I mean seriously, a 3 level stack in rural NSW would be overkill, let alone Tasmania.

Pure porkbarelling.
It's a Y interchange, not a stack. And at no point does it have 3 levels
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Old December 19th, 2017, 03:20 PM   #1283
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Official opening of Macksville and Nambucca Heads bypasses

Two bypasses on the Pacific Highway open to traffic, bringing to completion 14 kilometres of the Warrell Creek to Nambucca Heads section

The bypasses, one at Macksville and one at Nambucca Heads, form part of the overall 20-kilometre section being upgraded

$830 million project funded by the Australian and New South Wales governments

Full report: http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/about/news...-bypasses.html

$ 830 million for 20 kilometres of rural dual carriageway. That is about twice as expensive as an average rural dual carriageway in most of Europe.
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Old December 19th, 2017, 04:42 PM   #1284
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Do people that build roads in rural Australia have to move to the place / be temporarily housed in order to work on the roads. That would contribute to a lot of the cost.

Wouldn't be too many places in Europe that are more than 300km+ from a major city able to supply a workforce within a reasonable commute.
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Do people that build roads in rural Australia have to move to the place / be temporarily housed in order to work on the roads. That would contribute to a lot of the cost.

Wouldn't be too many places in Europe that are more than 300km+ from a major city able to supply a workforce within a reasonable commute.


Yes. It adds huge costs to every project be it road, rail or any infrastructure. There are plenty of people willing to do it as it pays very well. $250,000/ann for driving a truck isn’t bad. Living in make shift camps for months on end in the outback with 50degC heat can be hard enough
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Old December 24th, 2017, 04:16 PM   #1286
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Exactly. The same applies to mines. They are often in the middle of nowhere, so the mining companies typically fly people in to do, say, eight days straight, then fly them back out again. There's a couple of nurses I work with who alternate between being nurses on the wards and being nurses in the mines. The mining companies have to charter flights to quite literally get them to work!

Trust me, they do it for the money...
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