Hawaii Separating from the States?

BuffaloJim · January 25th, 2007, 04:11 AM

Do you think it's a possibility that a referendum could be held and passed ny Hawaii to separate from the United States? We did after all FORCE the monarchy out of Hawaii. Maybe perhaps we should hold a referendum on it asking Hawaiians on the issue?

Do you think it'll work?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaiia...ignty_movement

And this is supposed to be the new king:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bumpy_Kanahele

Dancer · January 25th, 2007, 06:32 AM

I say let Hawaiians decide their own fate. I think it’s so hypocritical of Americans to be talking about freedom and justice the way we do when our history and current policy is so ****ed up! It would suck though to lose it and we all know D.C. would never let that happen anyway.

Skyman · January 25th, 2007, 06:50 AM

No fucking way

jiggawhat? · January 25th, 2007, 10:45 PM

If u think there is any chance they would vote to seperate from the US... your nuts.... HAHAH ....

SanDiegoArch · January 25th, 2007, 11:44 PM

What an absurd thought! How would this action benefit anyone?

arturo · January 26th, 2007, 01:40 AM

I recall some states trying to cecede from the nation a while back...how did that end again??

irving1903 · January 26th, 2007, 03:31 AM

naw, the day Texas leaves is the day Hawaii will leave. lol

DrT · January 26th, 2007, 04:56 AM

Given the vote, probably half of the states in the US would vote to separate, and then half of the municipalities would vote to be independent, and then each citizen would choose to control their own affairs and we could in essence have 300 million "little" countries. Absurd. Abe Lincoln would say "no way".

MELLO PAPPOLO · January 26th, 2007, 06:14 PM

I've lived here 20 years now and there is allways a segment of the Native Hawaiin community that wants it's own seperate form of government. The articale referenced in this post is not a big a deal as you may think. Because there are so many Native Hawaiian groups vying for control, they never form a concensous on anything major for the betterment of the Native Hawaiian people. Separating from the U.S. will NEVER happen.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuffaloJim

Do you think it's a possibility that a referendum could be held and passed ny Hawaii to separate from the United States? We did after all FORCE the monarchy out of Hawaii. Maybe perhaps we should hold a referendum on it asking Hawaiians on the issue?

Do you think it'll work?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaiia...ignty_movement

And this is supposed to be the new king:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bumpy_Kanahele

metropolismayor · January 27th, 2007, 12:04 AM

Hawaii should stay. Its Texas that has to go.

arturo · January 27th, 2007, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by metropolismayor

Hawaii should saty. Its Texas that has to go.

Can we force Texas to secede?? Hahaha. If you've ever been there you know it's a different country anyway...

Black Box · January 27th, 2007, 09:22 PM

Then what? Would they become a territory again? The history is shameful and what the United States government did to Hawaiians was terrible, but Hawaii is too integrated with the rest of the United States today because it is a part of the United States.

Nutterbug · January 28th, 2007, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by irving1903

naw, the day Texas leaves is the day Hawaii will leave. lol

That should happen around the time the US pulls out of Iraq.

samsonyuen · January 28th, 2007, 05:39 AM

No, won't ever happen. It's a great relationship...

Joey313 · January 28th, 2007, 05:41 AM

we could forget about pearl harbor if hawaii was its own country

globill · January 29th, 2007, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arturo

Can we force Texas to secede?? Hahaha. If you've ever been there you know it's a different country anyway...

well, it doesn't have to secede, we could just make a peace offering to Mexico...

Don't think they'd be interested though....

JuanPaulo · February 2nd, 2007, 11:53 PM

This will never happen. Puerto Rico would become a state before Hawaii, or any other state, will be allowed to leave the Union.

jiggawhat? · February 3rd, 2007, 01:02 AM

since u brough up puerto rico...why doesnt it become a state? i never really knew. Whats the matter with texas? lol

Bori427 · February 3rd, 2007, 03:01 AM

Hawaiians don't want to separate from the US.

Wizewun · February 5th, 2007, 12:05 AM

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since u brough up puerto rico...why doesnt it become a state?

I'm pretty sure it's because as a territory, they don't pay any federal income tax. As a trade off that also don't get representation in congress or the right to vote for president, but they still get all the benefits of living in the US that everyone else does, i.e. security, quality of life, jobs, etc..

Also if I recall there have been a few elections over there to either become a state, stay a territory, or become independent and each time the vote has been to remain a territory.

View Poll Results: Hawaii Separating from the States?
Yes! Hawaii is their land and let them rule it themselves. US has nothing to do with Hawaii	44	31.65%
No! They are a part of US society and should remain that way	95	68.35%
Voters: 139. You may not vote on this poll

January 25th, 2007, 04:11 AM	#1
BuffaloJim Representing Western NY Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cheektowaga, New York Posts: 17 Likes (Received): 0	Hawaii Separating from the States? Do you think it's a possibility that a referendum could be held and passed ny Hawaii to separate from the United States? We did after all FORCE the monarchy out of Hawaii. Maybe perhaps we should hold a referendum on it asking Hawaiians on the issue? Do you think it'll work? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaiia...ignty_movement And this is supposed to be the new king: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bumpy_Kanahele

January 25th, 2007, 06:32 AM	#2
Dancer Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 2,013 Likes (Received): 23	I say let Hawaiians decide their own fate. I think it’s so hypocritical of Americans to be talking about freedom and justice the way we do when our history and current policy is so **ed up! It would suck though to lose it and we all know D.C. would never let that happen anyway. __________________ - Flickr - facebook - Urban Photo Set** -

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Skyman Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA UNITED STATES Posts: 5,200 Likes (Received): 0	No fucking way

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jiggawhat? Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 807 Likes (Received): 2	If u think there is any chance they would vote to seperate from the US... your nuts.... HAHAH ....

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SanDiegoArch Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Del Mar, North County, San Diego Posts: 48 Likes (Received): 0	What an absurd thought! How would this action benefit anyone?

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irving1903 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Irving-Las Colinas TX Posts: 191 Likes (Received): 1	naw, the day Texas leaves is the day Hawaii will leave. lol

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DrT "The Ignorant Fool" Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: JAX,MCO,YVR,YYZ,SRQ Posts: 2,595 Likes (Received): 1	Given the vote, probably half of the states in the US would vote to separate, and then half of the municipalities would vote to be independent, and then each citizen would choose to control their own affairs and we could in essence have 300 million "little" countries. Absurd. Abe Lincoln would say "no way".

January 27th, 2007, 09:22 PM	#12
Black Box Black Box Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 900 Likes (Received): 25	Then what? Would they become a territory again? The history is shameful and what the United States government did to Hawaiians was terrible, but Hawaii is too integrated with the rest of the United States today because it is a part of the United States.

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samsonyuen SSLL Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Canary Wharf > CityPlace Posts: 8,534 Likes (Received): 0	No, won't ever happen. It's a great relationship...

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JuanPaulo Guayaquil Vive Por Ti! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Honolulu, Hawai'i Posts: 9,570 Likes (Received): 287	This will never happen. Puerto Rico would become a state before Hawaii, or any other state, will be allowed to leave the Union.

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