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Old January 30th, 2007, 12:21 PM   #21
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I take it the casino will be outside the congestion charging zone?
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Old January 30th, 2007, 12:21 PM   #22
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It seems everyone wanted Blackpool to win. I certainly didn't want Greenwich to win, East London has so much regeneration going on, or coming to it.

I hate to say that Manchester has done pretty well out of the regeneration game as well. Blackpool really, really needed this casino.

I feel really sorry for them.
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Old January 30th, 2007, 12:22 PM   #23
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Shocking.

Is there any info at all about mancs super casino?
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Old January 30th, 2007, 12:22 PM   #24
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there were rumors that a centre alot like Chill Factor E would be built near the Casino aswell as an Extreme Sports Centre much like what would be built in Altrincham on the Altair Development (station location site)
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Old January 30th, 2007, 12:22 PM   #25
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more "super casinos" will only be given the go ahead only if the manchester one is a sucess........according to sky news
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Old January 30th, 2007, 12:22 PM   #26
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Fook me!!!

How did this happen?

I am genuinely shocked - for the first time in a long time.

Dam shame I didn't bet a tenner on this result yesterday.

Obviously in addition to being shocked about this I'm thrilled about the idea. But genuinely do think Blackpool deserved the win.

Now remind me what else we get in addition to the casino. Wasn't there talk about a 5,000 seat indoor areana/ice rink and 10 storey hotel alongside the gambling den?
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Manchester would appoint an independent community trust to oversee its super-casino's workings and promises the "highest standards of social responsibility".

The proposed site is a run-down area of east Manchester, which would see a £265m investment and create 2,700 direct and indirect jobs

The complex would also house an entertainment arena, a swimming pool, an urban sports venue, restaurants, bars, a nightclub and a hotel.

Opponents say the casino is likely to increase levels of problem gambling in an already deprived area.
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Old January 30th, 2007, 12:24 PM   #27
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I was convinced this would go to the dome...I'm just glad its gone up north!
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Old January 30th, 2007, 12:24 PM   #28
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Now all we need is the Libeskind rainforest scheme for a great hat-trick!
i wouldnt mind blackpool having this i mean they need something to help regenerate there town but ya it owuld be amazing if manchester would be chosen for this scheme do we know when we find out about this one
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Old January 30th, 2007, 12:25 PM   #29
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Blackpool should've got this, very shocked.

I think the casino was Ian Simpson designed, nothing spectacular if i remember rightly.
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Old January 30th, 2007, 12:25 PM   #30
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This is an economic disaster for Blackpool. Over the past 5 years, they have poured millions into the town preparing for the casino's. As we speak, they have large scale regeneration schemes UNDER CONSTRUCTION to compliment these casino's. Now, thanks to this crappy decision, they are stuck.

Its pathetic. Manchester never really needed this casino. It was just a single twinkle in an already glistening future. Blackpool had based their ENTIRE long term future around this.
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Old January 30th, 2007, 12:26 PM   #31
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Large casino licences were granted to Great Yarmouth, Kingston-upon-Hull, Leeds, Middlesbrough, Milton Keynes, Newham, Solihull and Southampton.

Smaller casino licences were granted to Bath and North East Somerset, Dumfries and Galloway, East Lindsey, Luton, Scarborough, Swansea, Torbay and Wolverhampton.

Chairman of the independent Casino Advisory Panel, Stephen Crow, said he had been "won over by how well the Manchester proposal in particular delivered against the full range of requirements set out in the criteria against which the judgments were made".

Manchester also represented a good place to test the social impact of a super-casino, and "the council's consultations with other local authorities and relevant bodies gave us confidence on that", added Prof Crow.

"Manchester has a catchment area for a casino second only to that of London, and it is an area in need of regeneration at least as much as any of the others we observed.

"Indeed, the city has the greatest need in terms of multiple deprivation of all the proposals that were before us," said Professor Crow.
Our on (Solihull) will be at the NEC - a prime spot for a supercasino
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Old January 30th, 2007, 12:26 PM   #32
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Manchester wins 'super-casino'

Ministers say the casinos will help regeneration
Manchester has been chosen as the surprise location of Britain's first Las Vegas-style "super-casino".
The decision is a blow for Blackpool and London's former Millennium Dome who were bookmakers' favourites.

The licence is to build a venue for up to 1,250 unlimited-jackpot fruit machines.

Large casino licences were granted to Great Yarmouth, Kingston-upon-Hull, Leeds, Middlesbrough, Milton Keynes, Newham, Solihull and Southampton.

Smaller casino licences were granted to Bath and North East Somerset, Dumfries and Galloway, East Lindsey, Luton, Scarborough, Swansea, Torbay and Wolverhampton.

Chairman of the independent Casino Advisory Panel, Stephen Crow, said he had been "won over by how well the Manchester proposal in particular delivered against the full range of requirements set out in the criteria against which the judgments were made".

Manchester also represented a good place to test the social impact of a super-casino, and "the council's consultations with other local authorities and relevant bodies gave us confidence on that", added Prof Crow.

"Manchester has a catchment area for a casino second only to that of London, and it is an area in need of regeneration at least as much as any of the others we observed.

"Indeed, the city has the greatest need in terms of multiple deprivation of all the proposals that were before us," said Professor Crow.
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Old January 30th, 2007, 12:29 PM   #33
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Sky News is reporting Blackpool is planning to go for a judicial review of the decision.

Apparently the North West Development Agency backed Blackpool
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Old January 30th, 2007, 12:32 PM   #34
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http://www.neweastmanchester.com/cms...20Proposal.pdf

shows every there needsto be about the New East Manchester Super Casino

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Old January 30th, 2007, 12:32 PM   #35
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from BlackpoolToday.co.uk:

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Blackpool casino dream shattered

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BLACKPOOL'S super-casino dreams lie in tatters. In a bombshell announcement the Casino Advisory Panel today recommended that Manchester should be handed the coveted licence for the UK's first Las Vegas-style resort casino.


The recommendation was today labelled "a huge blow" which leaves the ageing resort facing "an uncertain future".
Six years in the planning, the super-casino was seen as the catalyst for regenerating Blackpool and reversing the town's declining fortunes.
It had been hoped the gambling mecca would have created up to 3,400 jobs and bring in hundreds of millions of inward investment.
But at 11am the CAP - the independent body of planning experts commissioned to select the ideal location for the controversial attraction - announced it had plumped for Manchester.
The recommendation still has to be ratified by Culture Secretary Tessa Jowell and Parliament. Blackpool's only hope of getting back in the race is if MPs vote against the Panel's judgement.
A spokesman for Blackpool Council today said: "We will be lobbying the Government to look again at Blackpool's case, and to recognise that it can only prosper through gaining the first casino license."
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Old January 30th, 2007, 12:33 PM   #36
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The cynical side of me wonders whether giving it to Manchester is a way for the govt to ensure that the super-casinos are increased in the future.

Now both Greenwich and Blackpool will be pressing hard for more super casinos to be allowed.
Manchester is a better location to test wider social impact on a city-sized population.
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Old January 30th, 2007, 12:37 PM   #37
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So Manchester got it because it was a good guinea pig? Blackpool needed this, Manchester has so many eggs in its basket, Blackpool has none.
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Old January 30th, 2007, 12:38 PM   #38
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Manchester wins super-casino race

Ministers say the casinos will help regeneration
Manchester has been chosen as the surprise location of Britain's first Las Vegas-style super-casino.
The decision is a blow for Blackpool and London's former Millennium Dome who were the bookmakers' favourites.

The licence is to build a venue for up to 1,250 unlimited-jackpot fruit machines.

Large casino licences were granted to Great Yarmouth, Kingston-upon-Hull, Leeds, Middlesbrough, Milton Keynes, Newham, Solihull and Southampton.

Smaller casino licences were granted to Bath and North East Somerset, Dumfries and Galloway, East Lindsey, Luton, Scarborough, Swansea, Torbay and Wolverhampton.

There were seventeen licences granted in total by the independent Casino Advisory Panel

Manchester was a 16-1 outsider at the bookmakers to be selected as a test-bed for the UK's first regional "resort" casino.

'Regeneration'

There has been speculation that more super-casino licences might be awarded in future by ministers.

But the BBC understands that Culture Secretary Tessa Jowell will tell MPs later that there will definitely be no more awarded this Parliament.

Stephen Crow, chairman of the independent Casino Advisory Panel, said he had been "won over by how well the Manchester proposal in particular delivered against the full range of requirements set out in the criteria against which the judgments were made".

Manchester also represented a good place to test the social impact of a super-casino, and "the council's consultations with other local authorities and relevant bodies gave us confidence on that", added Prof Crow.

"Manchester has a catchments area for a casino second only to that of London, and it is an area in need of regeneration at least as much as any of the others we observed.

"Indeed, the city has the greatest need in terms of multiple deprivation of all the proposals that were before us," said Professor Crow.

Manchester's bid promised the "highest standards of social responsibility", with an independent Community Trust overseeing its workings.

'Track record'

Bid organisers said it would regenerate a poor area of east Manchester, promising a £265m investment and 2,700 direct and indirect jobs in one of the most deprived parts of the country.

The bid also boasted an "unrivalled track record" in delivering major regeneration schemes that have transformed deprived areas of the city in the past.

The casino would be based at Sportcity in the Beswick area of Manchester, close to the City of Manchester Stadium, now used by Manchester City FC and built for the Commonwealth Games.
The bid was backed by the city council and regeneration quango New East Manchester.

The proposed regional casino site will also contain an entertainment complex with a range of facilities such as a multi-purpose arena, a swimming pool, an urban sports venue, restaurants, bars, a nightclub and a hotel.

Blackpool 'disappointed'

Culture Secretary Tessa Jowell will consider the Casino Panel proposals before putting her recommendations to Parliament for a vote.

Councillor Richard Leese, Leader of Manchester City Council said: "This is fantastic news for Manchester, and the region.

"Manchester has an unrivalled track record in the delivery of major regeneration schemes so we are confident we have the expertise to deliver a world-class venue, creating thousands of new jobs for local people."

Doug Garrett, chief executive of ReBlackpool, the urban regeneration company that worked on the town's bid, said: "I'm very disappointed indeed at the outcome, Blackpool's future was something built around our plan.

"We believe the case that we put forward was a compelling one.

"We certainly won't be taking this as an end result. We still want to see change here.

"I'm very surprised but anything is a possibility. We still have a plan that was good and right yesterday and is good and right today despite the findings of the advisory panel."
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Old January 30th, 2007, 12:39 PM   #39
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I agree whole heartedly that this should have gone to Blackpool.

The only comfort I can see is that WE will make a success of it, and this will mean Blackpool will get the second wave of licences, and with their sea front and tourist trade, will make a good show of it and will surpass Manchester's in the long run

This though is small comfort for the town that really needed it at this moment in time though
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Old January 30th, 2007, 12:39 PM   #40
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Congradualtions Manhester, all you need now is to attract some tourists and make them pay for Congestion charges, ey if its the type where you put money in a machine, it could be good practise for the slot machines, although congestion charging machines don't give anything back
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