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larven · January 30th, 2007, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by b4mmy

Benidorm had a similar demographic 20 years ago and forced its local hotels to up their prices and change their marketing... Blackpool could have done the same, and would by now be a feasible destination for a much wider public... other than stag/hen weekenders, and groups of chavs going out on the lash. I know that sounds a bit harsh, but someone has to say it.

I agree with this...I certainly wouldn't choose to go to Blackpool for the reasons you've said. I know of plenty of people who do though, bloody coach loads of them going for a mucky weekend away for the sole purpose of getting as wankered as possible, causing trouble and kopping off with each other...it ain't pretty. I don't think I'd go there even if a super casino did exist, I'd be much more inclined to go to the casino as a destination in its own right if it were in Manchester. Blackpool's a dump...period...Manchester has so much more to offer.

pricemazda · January 30th, 2007, 01:41 PM

To me thats one of the biggest benefits of blackpool, it is a destination, ather than just in a large urban area. People would actually have to travel to the casino, rather than have one on their doorsteps.

Isaac Newell · January 30th, 2007, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pricemazda

To me thats one of the biggest benefits of blackpool, it is a destination, ather than just in a large urban area. People would actually have to travel to the casino, rather than have one on their doorsteps.

They'd be stuck in gridlock

TheGrand · January 30th, 2007, 01:44 PM

Where does Manchester sit with regards number of tourists compared to other places in the UK?

johnvixen · January 30th, 2007, 01:46 PM

Renders

skit_uk · January 30th, 2007, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by pricemazda

To me thats one of the biggest benefits of blackpool, it is a destination, ather than just in a large urban area. People would actually have to travel to the casino, rather than have one on their doorsteps.

But it is still a large urban area, there is quite a population in blackpool, prob about the same as east manchester. Plus east manc is also a destination for all the away fans who'll prob stay for the entire weekend of football and casino

chompo44 · January 30th, 2007, 01:49 PM

Manchester is a great location to test this as stated in the report...it may be a disaster, but i doubt it...lets just hope that it is up and running and much is learnt before the others are given the go a head. It should be 5 years from now before any more are considered, but with the government rubbing their hands i guess it won't be that long.

nerd · January 30th, 2007, 01:49 PM

This is one development that we are unlikely to have to hang around waiting for. The site is empty, the money is there, and the quicker they are off the mark, the longer they will have the market alone to themselves.

I also expect it will kick-start other East Manchester and City Centre schemes.

Elizabeth Kinoke · January 30th, 2007, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by larven

Blackpool's a dump...period...Manchester has so much more to offer.

which is precisely why Blackpool needs this more

Public perception of Manchester is generally good, public perception of Blackpool isn't, a super casino here is not just regeneration, it would put the spot light on Blackpool and would be a boost in the right direction.

ricsinsk9y · January 30th, 2007, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGrand

Where does Manchester sit with regards number of tourists compared to other places in the UK?

Third after London and Edinburgh for foreign tourists. Overall, I don't know.

nerd · January 30th, 2007, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGrand

Where does Manchester sit with regards number of tourists compared to other places in the UK?

second - behind London and ahead of Edinburgh.

PunkyPaul85 · January 30th, 2007, 01:53 PM

Apologies for being negative but this was Blackpool's only hope of regenerating, Im sorry but Manchester doesn't deserve this, I agree East Manc is rundown but it's already had the Commonwealth games. Blackpool should fight this decision! Something is not right here not right at all...

skyhigh247 · January 30th, 2007, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Accura

This is an economic disaster for Blackpool. Over the past 5 years, they have poured millions into the town preparing for the casino's. As we speak, they have large scale regeneration schemes UNDER CONSTRUCTION to compliment these casino's. Now, thanks to this crappy decision, they are stuck.

Its pathetic. Manchester never really needed this casino. It was just a single twinkle in an already glistening future. Blackpool had based their ENTIRE long term future around this.

This is not a crappy decision for Manchester. As someone who lives near East Manchester, it was desperate for a big scheme like this. Finally a large number of jobs will be created directly and indirectly in this area. Blackpool has had problems for decades, but waited until the 11th hour before it did anything. Time to sack the Labour council up their and get some focused enterprising councillors with good contacts.

johnvixen · January 30th, 2007, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by PunkyPaul85

Apologies for being negative but this was Blackpool's only hope of regenerating, Im sorry but Manchester doesn't deserve this, I agree East Manc is rundown but it's already had the Commonwealth games. Blackpool should fight this decision! Something is not right here not right at all...

Because Blackpools a S**thole. It will take more than regeneration to get it back, it's the culture as well....it's full of tramps and riff raff. Manchester was the best decision.

TheGrand · January 30th, 2007, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ricsinsk9y

Third after London and Edinburgh for foreign tourists. Overall, I don't know.

Thats what i thought, cheers

***b4mmy*** · January 30th, 2007, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by PunkyPaul85

Apologies for being negative but this was Blackpool's only hope of regenerating...

rubbish, read these

http://www.culture.gov.uk/cap/eip/ei...ncilLetter.pdf

http://primatrecruitment.com/news/me...76&mryear=2006

http://www.blackpool.gov.uk/Business/Regeneration/

Regeneration Home Page

Blackpool is entering a new era of regeneration to underpin its vision to be ‘a world class resort destination that is a great place to visit, a better place to live’.

The Blackpool Masterplan aims to transform the town and encapsulates a programme designed to rebuild the seafront, provide new tram infrastructure, release key town centre and seafront sites for development, (*win the UKs only regional casino licence), and forge partnerships with developers and investors. Blackpool Council is working closely with a new urban regeneration company – ReBlackpool – to ensure a strategic approach to implementing the Masterplan.

As the physical transformation takes shape, Blackpool Council and its key partners, recognise the need to ensure that change has a positive impact upon the lives of deprived individuals and families living in Blackpool. A range of strategies and programmes are being rolled out to engage with and ensure maximum benefit to local residents and businesses. Taken together these actions provide a regeneration framework that supports ReBlackpool’s Investment Plan for Sustainable Resort Regeneration.

*one single element of the regen programme

***gothicform*** · January 30th, 2007, 02:04 PM

arent the govt clever. we know they want more super casinos so they pick the least publicly popular one (compared to say blackpool or london). oh no, now blackpool needs one too and imagine the capital not having one!

pricemazda · January 30th, 2007, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by johnvixen

Because Blackpools a S**thole. It will take more than regeneration to get it back, it's the culture as well....it's full of tramps and riff raff. Manchester was the best decision.

Funny how no one rated it apart from an unelected committee. Manchester council itself didn't think it would win.

Casinos attract even more riff raff, so maybe Blackpool is a good place, unless you want to attract low lifes to Manchester

Gareth · January 30th, 2007, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by gothicform

arent the govt clever. we know they want more super casinos so they pick the least publicly popular one (compared to say blackpool or london). oh no, now blackpool needs one too and imagine the capital not having one!

That sort of makes sense, come to think of it.

pricemazda · January 30th, 2007, 02:09 PM

Blackpool should try to get some seafront hi rise hotels.

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pricemazda King of Wishful Thinking Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Lincoln, EU Posts: 17,447 Likes (Received): 133	To me thats one of the biggest benefits of blackpool, it is a destination, ather than just in a large urban area. People would actually have to travel to the casino, rather than have one on their doorsteps. __________________ In Brussels no one hears you scream

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PunkyPaul85 Aspiring Liverpolitan Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The City of Liverpool Posts: 111 Likes (Received): 0	Apologies for being negative but this was Blackpool's only hope of regenerating, Im sorry but Manchester doesn't deserve this, I agree East Manc is rundown but it's already had the Commonwealth games. Blackpool should fight this decision! Something is not right here not right at all... __________________ 'Liverpool, thanks to modern science & commercial enterprise, to the spirit & intelligence of the townsmen, & to the administration of the mersey docks & harbour board, has become a wonder of the world. It is the New York of Europe, a world city rather than merely British provincial'. *Illustrated London News*, 1886

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January 30th, 2007, 01:44 PM	#84
TheGrand Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: The Republic Posts: 1,825 Likes (Received): 3	Where does Manchester sit with regards number of tourists compared to other places in the UK?

January 30th, 2007, 01:46 PM	#85
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January 30th, 2007, 01:49 PM	#87
chompo44 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: northern lights Posts: 272 Likes (Received): 0	Manchester is a great location to test this as stated in the report...it may be a disaster, but i doubt it...lets just hope that it is up and running and much is learnt before the others are given the go a head. It should be 5 years from now before any more are considered, but with the government rubbing their hands i guess it won't be that long.

January 30th, 2007, 01:49 PM	#88
nerd Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,783 Likes (Received): 16	This is one development that we are unlikely to have to hang around waiting for. The site is empty, the money is there, and the quicker they are off the mark, the longer they will have the market alone to themselves. I also expect it will kick-start other East Manchester and City Centre schemes.

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*gothicform* Bossman Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: not london Posts: 29,147 Likes (Received): 479	arent the govt clever. we know they want more super casinos so they pick the least publicly popular one (compared to say blackpool or london). oh no, now blackpool needs one too and imagine the capital not having one!