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Old August 11th, 2009, 02:04 PM   #641
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Oh, I never knew about that rule. That would be the end of the "Buffel"


But like the VIRM the thalys also does not adhere tot the rule and it got a new exterior in 2008 but it is completely red. So you could call the rule pretty redundant indeed.
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Old August 11th, 2009, 02:45 PM   #642
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Forget all that nonsense about yellow and striped fronts on trains.
There is only one effective way to see approaching trains and that is three strong headlights.
In fact headlights are so visually effective, that it is why it is compulsary in Scandinavia for motorists to have their headlights (dipped) on all the time.
Photo from Nordhavn in Copenhagen with an Øresund train heading for Sweden.

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Old August 17th, 2009, 04:52 PM   #643
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What the hell are you talking about, you are just making up rules that do not exist. Does the ICE have a red front?

In the Netherlands there was never a rule about this as far a I know. Look at this old train:


or this one:


These train are still allowed to run here.

To make trains visible you can use the wonderful invention of the headlight. Which in the Netherlands are traditionally yellow, but on new trains also white.
High Speed trains are usually WHITE nowadays for a reason.

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You're stark raving mad. Yellow noses were never a rule in the Netherlands, but for a while, entire trains were painted yellow because NS adopted that as their company's dominant color.

Don't drag us into your mess.
Who ever told you "yellow noses" were a rule there ???

Old trains were either dark green or red ... usually WITH a white area around the headlights ... in the sixties (when UIC dictated the high-visibility front colors tru all europe) they changed the ENTIRE train to yellow in the NL.

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That rule is as good as redundant, nobody pays any attention to it.
Learn to live with the truth ...

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Forget all that nonsense about yellow and striped fronts on trains.
There is only one effective way to see approaching trains and that is three strong headlights.
In fact headlights are so visually effective, that it is why it is compulsary in Scandinavia for motorists to have their headlights (dipped) on all the time.
Photo from Nordhavn in Copenhagen with an Øresund train heading for Sweden.
There are countries where it isn't even mandatory to have headlights ... at least until some time ago.
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Old August 17th, 2009, 05:07 PM   #644
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There are countries where it isn't even mandatory to have headlights ... at least until some time ago.
Yeah, and when I lived in Switzerland (admittedly that's many years ago...) there were a couple of cantons where it was still "forbidden" to drive a Scandinavian car: the local police ordonances forbade the use of headlights "when not necessitated by conditions of visibility". Hence, if one drove around on a sunny day with the headlights on one could get busted by the Kantonspolizei. Admittedly, those rules had been crafted in the days of DC batteries which could be emptied if one used the lights too much... In reality I don't think anybody every had to pay a fine.
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Old August 17th, 2009, 11:38 PM   #645
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High Speed trains are usually WHITE nowadays for a reason.
They forgot to tell the thalys that:


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Old trains were either dark green or red ... usually WITH a white area around the headlights ... in the sixties (when UIC dictated the high-visibility front colors tru all europe) they changed the ENTIRE train to yellow in the NL.
Old trains that are not dark green or red:


Not a single train was painted ENTIRELY in yellow but I guess you mean that yellow was used as the base colour. Trains after the sixties that are not yellow:








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Old August 19th, 2009, 06:52 PM   #646
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This 3-system class EG locomotive, designed to run in Sweden, Denmark and Germany pictured at Ørestad south of Copenhagen. The yellow colour here was applied for design effect and not for saftey reasons.
These 3 countries accept headlights as satisfactory warning measure.

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Old January 11th, 2010, 01:58 AM   #647
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MISC | Rail Maps of the World

Hi, am searching for nice-looking railway maps from round the world for a project I'm working on so thought it would be a good idea to ask you forummers and also a good excuse to post some pretty piccies of rail maps from the world.

I'll get the ball rolling but please add your own !

* Detailed map of the NYCRR from around 1876 proudly announcing its 4 track route:

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* France by 1914:

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* Beautiful 3D-esque relief map of Scotland produced by the LNER/LMS around 1934:

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* Uganda Railways poster of early 1920s:

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* How the Canadian west was opened up by the railroad:

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* The Australian system in 1907 before the sides of the country were connected:

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* What was existent and planned in Ireland by 1906 in the Viceregal Commission report:

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*The South West of Russia down to Odessa/Black Sea in 1899:

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* What Spain has/planned by 1864:

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* Britains 'Southern Railway' links to the Continent:

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So now it's your turn! Show us what you've got!? :-)
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Old January 11th, 2010, 08:15 AM   #648
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China's rail plan in 1919

Black = Existing railway
Red = Planned railway


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Old January 11th, 2010, 11:38 AM   #649
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These are not historical maps, but surely interesting:

http://www.bueker.net/trainspotting/

http://membres.multimania.fr/cartesferro/index_en.html
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Old January 11th, 2010, 11:59 AM   #650
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Interrail



Here's a nice rail map of europe.

Check the offers for an interrail tour! www.interrail.net

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Old January 11th, 2010, 03:56 PM   #651
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Here's the map of former Yugoslavia

[IMG]http://i45.************/anxxyd.jpg[/IMG]

And a BIG one: http://www3.tron-inter.net/doktor/ra...l_karta_yu.jpg
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Old January 12th, 2010, 10:15 AM   #652
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Nice maps. Here is Ukrainian raillway map:

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Old January 12th, 2010, 02:26 PM   #653
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This is great! Keep them coming!!!

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Old January 12th, 2010, 03:35 PM   #654
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Heres sum Rail maps form around the Northeastern US

MARC - Maryland-DC-West Virgina



MBTA - Massachusetts-Rhode Island



Metro North New York-Connecticut



Long Island Railroad New York



SEPTA - Southeastern PA - South Jersey - Northern Delaware



SEPTA Regional Rail future Map



New Jersey Transit - New Jersey & small sections of NYC



CT DOT planned & Existing Rail



Virgina Rail



Thats all the maps , i know and could fit on this site.

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Old January 12th, 2010, 04:21 PM   #655
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If you are also interested in subway maps, here is Moscow subway map:

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Old January 12th, 2010, 04:40 PM   #656
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Nice one Nexis!!

Good to see some excellent maps there from the eastern states.

Older maps welcome too.

Corey: subway maps are great but there's another thread for that I belive over on the "subways" forums :-) Thanks anyway :-)
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Old January 12th, 2010, 05:03 PM   #657
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Nice one Nexis!!

Good to see some excellent maps there from the eastern states.

Older maps welcome too.

Corey: subway maps are great but there's another thread for that I belive over on the "subways" forums :-) Thanks anyway :-)
Those aren't subway maps , those are Commuter Rail maps. Only subway map is the SEPTA one , but since i couldn't find a separate one for the Regional system i posted that one.
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Old January 12th, 2010, 05:33 PM   #658
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Hiello from Buenos Aires!
Here you have some maps of the Argentine Railway System. Until the 50's we have one of the more developed railways systems of the world. Up today most of the passenger lines are closed.
1. Current operative lines (Freight)

2. Current operative lines (Passenger)

3. All the historical lines

4. Maximum extension of the Argentine system in comparison with European (using Bern as Buenos Aires)

Hope you like them!
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This is a map from the swiss railway (SBB)

Switzerland has one of the densest railway system worldwide.

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Those aren't subway maps , those are Commuter Rail maps. Only subway map is the SEPTA one , but since i couldn't find a separate one for the Regional system i posted that one.

Hey Nexis, all maps welcome of any denomination! Commuter rail defintitely belongs on this page here.

But do take a look at this thread when you have time: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=367975 It's subway-map heaven :-) It lives just across the road in the SSC section on Subways :-)

Latest posts by ZHUL and Atlante are excellent, keep 'em coming - let's at least see if we can get one from every country with railroads and the more historic old ones the better ! Get those scanners rumbling!
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