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Old February 11th, 2010, 06:42 AM   #701
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You just think there was a big reduction in Britain, while actually if you compare to what happened in Brazil you are still quite well off.
Maybe not as bad as Brazil, but New Zealand lost so much of it's passenger network as well. I think in the 1980's. I believe the government sold it off to an American company to operate and then the American company closed most of it down. Hmmm, sounds familiar ;O)

But it's a sad state compared to what it used it be.
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Old February 11th, 2010, 11:15 AM   #702
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You just think there was a big reduction in Britain, while actually if you compare to what happened in Brazil you are still quite well off.

Now I remember that Mexico also suffered a comparable cut.
Thanks for that info Sekelsenmat. In fact this is really one of the key reasons for setting up this thread! I don't for a second believe Britain suffered worse than elsewhere, in fact as you say the UK is lucky to have a relatively good rail system compared to many countries, so I'm grateful to you for pointing out the huge losses in South and Central America. I've seen some maps of "before and after" in Argentina but if you can find any more maps which contrast the difference that would be fascinating (if sad) to see?!

Anyone help us out with Mexico?

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Maybe not as bad as Brazil, but New Zealand lost so much of it's passenger network as well. I think in the 1980's. I believe the government sold it off to an American company to operate and then the American company closed most of it down. Hmmm, sounds familiar ;O)
Yeah Justme, I've seen some maps of what NZ once had and heard what's left is pitiful. You have any maps to show this? I'll upload one that I've found in a mo.

Please keep 'em coming.


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Old February 13th, 2010, 12:53 PM   #703
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Yeah Justme, I've seen some maps of what NZ once had and heard what's left is pitiful. You have any maps to show this? I'll upload one that I've found in a mo.
I remember when I was a very young child being in Christchurch's central train station when I was a child when they were buying a ticket for a journey up to Nelson. I was amazed at the size of the station. I can't remember too much but I remember it being like any normal beautiful historical station. Now, it's gone.

A few months ago I was back in Christchurch and we arrived at what is now their central station. It looked like a tiny suburban station, with only one platform. I am not sure if our train was the only train departing that day, but if there were more it wouldn't be much.

The train that arrived looked like something out of a black and white film. Not one of the luxury trains you'll see Bond travelling on though. I was surprised not to see a stream engine at the front. The observation car was what looked like a converted cattle cage. Actually, I think it was a converted baggage car, but all the same I was quite taken back. The journey itself was terribly uncomfortable. But it was quite a lovely scenic journey. Funny enough, at the other end we had to get the ferry to Wellington. And this was completely different. The ferry terminal and ferry's themselves were up to the standard I expect for such transport and similar to what I have travelled on here in Europe.

I believe most cities have lost their grand stations... well, grand for NZ standards. Only Wellington still has theirs in operation.

Sorry, I don't have any maps.
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Old February 13th, 2010, 11:22 PM   #704
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Here are some old railways maps from Japan during world war II.

http://nrch.cca.gov.tw/ccahome/map/m...esize=9&page=2

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Old February 14th, 2010, 07:22 PM   #705
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Here are some old railways maps from Japan during world war II.

http://nrch.cca.gov.tw/ccahome/map/m...esize=9&page=2
Nice find Linkent

(In order to see the page you need to paste the link into something rather than clicking on it (well on this here mac anyhow)!.


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Old March 1st, 2010, 04:01 PM   #706
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Spain 1948 Network

Nice photo of a late 1940's map on the wall of the National Rail Museum in madrid.
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Old March 2nd, 2010, 02:53 PM   #707
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here is the Indian railways map from wiki..

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Old March 3rd, 2010, 09:01 PM   #708
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These are the former national railways, tramlines and vicinal railways in Belgium (most of them). Most of the national railways are kept, the other ones are almost all gone. A link to the railway map of 2010 is included below. Just click the links, the images are to big to show on the forum and I can't resize them because of the copyright. All maps except the last one are from Wikimedia. The last map is from the NMBS-Holding.

West-Vlaanderen

Oost-Vlaanderen

Antwerpen

Limburg

Brabant (and Brussels)

Liege

Namur

Railway map of Belgium

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Old March 4th, 2010, 03:56 PM   #709
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When the NorthWest had a massive suburban system

Say what you like about the inefficiencies of the steam age, but at least there was a decent rail service, smuts on your clothes or not!

This is from 1958
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These are the former national railways, tramlines and vicinal railways in Belgium (most of them). Most of the national railways are kept, the other ones are almost all gone.
An interesting comparison in fact to the Vicinals of Belgium and the inter-urban and suburban lines of the NorthWest of the UK. These must surely have been two of the densest penetrations of railways anywhere on the planet at that time.

Probably be areas of China like this soon!

EDIT: For reference to people from outside the UK who don't know the area, the distance between Liverpool and Manchester is about 35 miles - the map edge to edge is about 55 miles wide by 35 high. And there's about 450 stations stuffed into that area!
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Old March 4th, 2010, 10:49 PM   #711
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An interesting comparison in fact to the Vicinals of Belgium and the inter-urban and suburban lines of the NorthWest of the UK. These must surely have been two of the densest penetrations of railways anywhere on the planet at that time.
Belgium (30.000 Sq km) used to have 5000 km of lines in the national network
(1,435m) and 5000 another km of "vicinal" network (1m), not counting urban
tramways in Brussels, Antwerp, Gent and Ličge. The national network is now
down to 3000 km and the vicinal network has almost disappeared, at the
exception of the coastal line and a few km around Charleroi.
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Old March 5th, 2010, 01:49 AM   #712
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Old March 11th, 2010, 01:09 PM   #713
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Old April 23rd, 2010, 06:18 PM   #714
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CAN ANYONE IDENTIFY THIS RUSSIAN MAP???

trying to find which part of Russia it covers. dates from 1940. Just not sure if it its Moscow to St P. Moscow or Urals or whole country. Any ideas anyone???

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Old April 23rd, 2010, 07:00 PM   #715
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A map of OZhD operator. It operates in Northwestern Russia. It owns a direction between SPb and Moscow. Moscow is in right bottom.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oktyabrskaya_Railway
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A map of OZhD operator. It operates in Northwestern Russia. It owns a direction between SPb and Moscow. Moscow is in right bottom.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oktyabrskaya_Railway
Thanks Coth! Really useful cheers! :-)
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Old April 23rd, 2010, 08:21 PM   #717
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Algerian railway network system



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Nice one YorkTown! Lots of great plans there in Algeria

OK here's the next challenge for Coth or anyone else:
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So why two maps of what seems like the same route? Is one a daytime one a night time service? What does the text say? I've got it down as 1903 - you think thats correct?? Whats the city at the far right? Vladivostock??

Any help greatly appreciated

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obviously a map of transcontinental journey.
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Old April 25th, 2010, 03:45 PM   #720
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Nice one YorkTown! Lots of great plans there in Algeria :-)
You are welcome

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