Leeds Bradford International Airport - Thread 2

[raddileeds]

For a summary of the LBA masterplan go to
http://www.lbia.co.uk/pdf/Master_Plan_Summary.pdf

[LS19]

I think we will see Lahore come on line once Shaheen get their second A310.

[kierancy]

I think they will be introducing the Lahore rout sometime in summer.

[Benney]

Originally Posted by kierancy

I think they will be introducing the Lahore rout sometime in summer.

Let battle commence then.

[kierancy]

This year will be a record year for new routs from Leeds with something like 10 new routs

[LS19]

As things stand, the confirmed new routes for Summer 2008 (ie includes routes previously winter only) are as follows:

Avignon - Jet2
Hamburg (Lubeck) - Jet2
Geneva - Jet2 - going through the Summer for the first time
Jersey - Jet2
Olbia (Sardinia) - Jet2
Madrid Barajas - Jet2
La Rochelle - Jet2
Paphos - Jet2
Heraklion - Jet2
Shannon - Ryanair
Islamabad - Shaheenair
Antalya - Onur Air

[*-City Of Bradford-*]

Not Sure If many people would be wanting to go to Pakistan now after the Awful death Bhutoo. PAkistan is probably going to get a whole lot worse.

[SmartCity]

Nah

If Pakistan is your homeland it would probably make you more likely to want to return.

[Leeds rules]

Hi

Leeds/Bradford is again behind other UK airports but this time in the game of easeing the one-piece cabin baggage restriction next month, the government has said.

I guess they (Bridgepoinht Capital) need to go spend some of the £70 million now. Thats if they dont want LBA to be left behind again as normal. Also It wont look good to Airlines that already operate from here or whom maybe be looking at LBA in the future. eg Shaheen and maybe some other low cost operators.

Here's the BBC Look norths report. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7163616.stm

Leeds/Bradford Airport 'not ready' for changes

Several of the UK's main airports do not yet have permission to ease the one-piece cabin baggage restriction next month, the government has said

The Department for Transport has said more than one piece will be allowed after 7 January, provided airports have purchased improved security scanners.

So far 19 airports have been given permission to relax the rule



But several airports including Gatwick, Leeds Bradford and Edinburgh have yet to meet the required standards.

They have to prove they can cope with extra cabin bags without compromising security.

'Confusing'

A spokesman for the Department of Transport said: "Some airports have coped with the changes, but some need to improve."

Passengers might feel confused about the different rules at different airports, he admitted, but said it was the industry's responsibility to inform them.

Malcolm Robertson, head of corporate communications at airport operator BAA, said he expected more BAA airports, including Gatwick, Glasgow and Edinburgh, to be approved by the government in the next few weeks.

He said: "We've invested heavily in new security capacity including technology and people to help the Government lift their one baggage rule."

BAA has recruited over 2,000 new security guards in the last 14 months, he added.

But he said that Gatwick airport failed to meet the targets because it had a shortage of technology and people.

Easyjet said it was worried that passengers could turn up at airports with the wrong amount of baggage.



The airline flies from Stansted airport, which is allowed to relax the bag restrictions but also from Luton, where the old luggage rules still apply.

Size limits on liquids and cabin baggage will still apply and airlines can place their own restrictions on the amount of hand baggage that can be taken in to their aircraft.

The dimensions of hand luggage must not exceed 56cm x 45cm x 25cm (22in x 17.7in x 9.8in approx), including wheels, handles and side pockets. This is equivalent to the size of a small roller suitcase.

The airports that already have permission to relax baggage restrictions on 7 January are: Aberdeen, Benbecula, Birmingham, Cambridge, Cardiff, Heathrow, Inverness, Islay, Kirkwall, London City, Manchester, Plymouth, Prestwick, Southampton, Southend, Stansted, Stornaway, Sumburgh and Wick.

[Val Verde]

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Considering it is now 2008 have the figures for how many passengers used Leeds Bradford Airport in 2007 been released yet? The fields below are as from the left; year, number of passengers and number of movements.

1997 1,254,853 26,123
1998 1,406,948 25,615
1999 1,462,497 26,185
2000 1,585,039 29,263
2001 1,530,227 28,397
2002 1,530,019 28,566
2003 2,017,649 29,397
2004 2,368,604 31,493
2005 2,609,638 35,949
2006 2,792,686 37,251



Surely id have thought they would have broken the 3 million passengers per annum mark this year especially as a contiuned sign of the increasing popularity of Leeds Bradford Airport.

Also are they going to launch this year concrete plans for a railway station for Leeds Bradford Airport on the Harrogate Line and a road link to the M62 this year especially as id thought the main thing the airport needs to compete with rival airports in the north of England are enhanced transport links especially with other airports seeing improvements to transport already in place or in advanced planning and for the airports long term future such links must be paramount.

I do know that they are planning on giving the terminal a major overhaul though. Is there any news on these works yet and at least the news of a wide array of new destinations by Jet 2 from Leeds Bradford Airport is a good thing as well as the possible Shaheen routes to Pakistan if they commence.

[luftnachrichten]

Expect approx 2.87m to be the calendar year total.

There are no plans for a rail link to be announced in 2008, and there have never been any plans for a road link to the M62. Both are the responsibility of the local authorities, not the airport company.

[Val Verde]

Well they should certainly imo develop transport links to LBA as soon as possible and what has happened to the planned road from the airport to the A65 / A6120 Esso Garage roundabout? Is that just being left as a plan? Also with an increasing number of passengers surely traffic in narrow residential and rural roads in and around Rawdon, Yeadon and Horsforth (clearly not designed for airport traffic) would become increasingly congested as it certainly does at the crossroads on the A658 in Yeadon where Beefeater and Murgatroyds are.

Surely id have thought the development of the airports transport infrastructure would be of high importance for the councils of West Yorkshire as well as METRO?

[luftnachrichten]

as I said before, it is an issue for the local authority.

The airports responsibility is to increase revenue through alternative on-site revenue generation and lower costs, this is what is past on to airlines as an incentive to increase or introduce new services. Hense the reason why the terminal development is first on the list.

Bridgepoint bought an airfield, they didn't buy the surrounding roads and rail lines. That is the responsibility of the local authorities. That is what you pay council tax for.

[wiggleyleeds]

seems silly to me. imo the bottle neck preventing me from using LBA, and instead opting for manchester aiport is the really awful transport links to LBA. If i ran LBA i'd be liasing with the council to come to some sort of joint agreements on transport infrastructure for LBA to remove this horrific bottleneck that will always keep LBA a small league middle of nowhere aiport. Its embarressing when doncaster aiport starts from scratch only a year ago and already excels LBA

[luftnachrichten]

Where does doncaster excel LBA?
Why is a 25 min bus ride from leeds city station to LBA worse than a 1hr 15 min train journey to manchester?
Come on wiggley, if you are going to make statements like that at leat give them some credibility.

[Skychaser 2005]

Originally Posted by wiggleyleeds

seems silly to me. imo the bottle neck preventing me from using LBA, and instead opting for manchester aiport is the really awful transport links to LBA. If i ran LBA i'd be liasing with the council to come to some sort of joint agreements on transport infrastructure for LBA to remove this horrific bottleneck that will always keep LBA a small league middle of nowhere aiport. Its embarressing when doncaster aiport starts from scratch only a year ago and already excels LBA

A couple of corrections to your comments wiggleyleeds.

Firstly, Doncaster has nowhere near the throughput of passengers to LBA. LBA has around 3 times the passengers.

Secondly, LBA has shaken off its once "small league middle of nowhere airport" image as it now fly's to almost 70 destinations with one of the highest growth rates of any UK airport. Jet 2 has transformed the airport and Bridgepoint will contiue that growth with there proposed £70m expansion of the airports facilities.

[XEROX1]

In regards to passenger figures at LBIA, Jet2 alone will fly 3.5million by 2010, if Shaheen becomes a success i can see the airport break the 4million barrier by then.

[Leeds No.1]

Seemes perfectly do-able. And we know that Jet2 aim to go long haul from Leeds; I think they will do this as soon as they possibly can really. If Shaheen fails somehow, but they prove demand for the route, could Jet2 take the route?

[luftnachrichten]

As the Dart Group is trading 2/3 of its value as one year ago, I think long haul is a long long way away for Jet2. A take over seems more likely. Increasing yield on what it does best is what the company needs to concentrate on. 3.5m pax from leeds seems ambitious in 2 yrs, and perhaps a front - infront of new owners of the airfield.

As for Pakistan, it is Shaheen Air Int/PIA or nothing. UK products dont work on this type of operation.

[XEROX1]

Seemes perfectly do-able. And we know that Jet2 aim to go long haul from Leeds; I think they will do this as soon as they possibly can really.

I think Jet2 will go L/haul someday but will first concentrate on North American destinations - like New York and Toronto, if 'rumours' are to be believed, Jet2 are looking at acquiring larger Boeing 767 jets for such operation.

If Shaheen fails somehow, but they prove demand for the route, could Jet2 take the route?

Pakistanis from Bradford and surrounding towns have already proved that such route is possible if we take Swefly as an example, if it doesn't work out for Shaheen, i cant see Jet2 flying this route, it would just be a big shift from its existing business model - However, stranger things have happened in aviation.

As for Pakistan, it is Shaheen Air Int/PIA or nothing. UK products dont work on this type of operation.

Air Blue?