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Old February 6th, 2007, 11:35 AM   #1
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Liverpool's Old Original Station Before Exchange Station

please can someone help me i am currently working on my new website www.oldliverpoolrailways.tk which is about liverpools railways, stations ect and i am stuck on exchange station as i found out it was not the original station i know it opened in 1850 and used to be called Tithebarn Street railway station and changed to exchange station in 1888 but before 1850 before echange station(tithebarn street station) there was another station near to that site does anyone have any info on this or where about the original staion was? only info i could find was of wikipida and it said:

''Liverpool Exchange railway station was a railway station located in Liverpool, England. It opened originally as Tithebarn Street railway station on 13 May 1850, replacing an earlier station at Great Homer street nearby. The station was extensively rebuilt and renamed in 1888, expanding from its original site to cover Clarke's Basin (the original end of the Leeds-Liverpool Canal)''

(but how can it be a great homer street thats miles away from the exchange station site?)
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Old February 6th, 2007, 12:22 PM   #2
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It probably meant Great Howard Street.
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Old February 6th, 2007, 12:31 PM   #3
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thats a typo....it was great howard street. That station was used as a good depo. Thats why as you enter the tunnel to head to Moorfields south bound, the railway has TWO viaducts, one which originally served exchange and the one which begins to sink to moorefields. This sunk line cuts through the area that would have served the Great Howard St Goods depo.

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Old February 6th, 2007, 12:58 PM   #4
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thanks sopose it must be a type erorr that makes my job much easyer my site is taking forever lol but where exactly is the site of great howard street station is it the bit above the old waterloo tunnel shaft by toys r us? btw what is that tunnel i think its the end of the waterloo tunnel that goes underground exchange station its at the top end near chadwick street it runs under the car park and there is another opening in the car park and also at fontenoy street have a look on google maps
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Old February 7th, 2007, 05:24 PM   #5
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Good stuff. I'll try and take some West Derby Station photos for you, if you're interested.
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Old February 18th, 2007, 08:39 PM   #6
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Here are some photos taken yesterday of the abandoned railway viaduct that served Exchange Station. The viaduct to the right is the old route to the Great Howard Street goods depot and was re-used for the Merseyrail Northern Line:

This shows the point at which the two viaducts merge:

The Merseyrail Northern Line uses the old viaduct, until it gets to the Waterloo Arch, which spans the approach tracks to the Waterloo Tunnel. As this arch couldn't be demolished, a very steep gradient had to be introduced from the top of the arch down to the Link Line tunnel portal, which is just north of Leeds Street.
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Old February 21st, 2007, 06:55 AM   #7
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Have you seen this site oritelad? Just click on the link at the bottom of the page.

Disused Stations In The UK

Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway & East Lancashire Railway
Date closed to passengers: 20.4.1977
Date closed completely: 20.4.1977
Company on closing: British Rail (London Midland Region)
Present state: The station frontage which was at one time a hotel has been converted into the Mercury Court office complex. The train shed was demolished shortly after closure and the site is now a car park. Elements of the former station can still be seen throughout the car park site.
County: Lancashire
OS Grid Ref: SJ343908
Date of visit: 31.12.1976 and 21.01.2005

Notes: In the 1840s two lines where constructed into Liverpool from the north. The first line was from Bury via Bolton and Wigan and this line would ultimately have connections to Manchester providing an alternative route to that offered by the Liverpool and Manchester Railway of 1830. The Bury line was ultimately constructed by the Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway. The second line came in from Preston and was constructed by the East Lancashire Railway. Both lines met at Walton and then shared a route into Liverpool. On th 20th November 1848 they opened a joint terminus at Great Howard Street. The two companies made uneasy bedfellows and could not even agree on a joint name for the station. The LYR favoured Borough Goal after the nearby prison whilst the ELR favoured Great Howard Street.

This station soon proved inadequate for the heavy traffic that developed and an extension was soon underway to a point right on the edge of the city business district at Tithebarn Street.

This new station opened on 13th May 1850 and was known by two names. To the LYR it was Exchange Station and to the ELR it was Tithebarn Street.

On the 13th August 1859 the companies amalgamated as the LYR. A third line was opened from the north linking Liverpool with Southport.

Although a minor line, it grew very quickly as a commuter route with housing development spreading all along its route. By the 1880s traffic had built up to such a degree that further expansion was needed. An act of 24th July 1882 authorised a widening of the approach lines whilst an Act of 2nd August 1883 allowed for a complete rebuild of Exchange Station. This new station opened in part on 12th December 1886 and completely on 2nd July 1888. In its final form the station consisted of a grand hotel frontage, ten platform faces and four longitudinal gabled roofs.

On 22nd March 1904 the Southport Line was electrified and proved a great success generating even more business. On 3rd December 1906 electrification was extended along the Preston line as far as Aintree. Over the next few years it would be extended two more times until it reached Ormskirk on 1st April 1913.

Exchange Station developed an extensive commuter service of electric trains as well as a number of express workings to Scotland and to the east. Other services went to Blackpool, Windermere and Whitehaven. When the LYR became part of the LMS in 1923 regular Manchester Expresses completed the journey in 40 minutes.

Liverpool Exchange was extensively damaged during the Second World War causing major disruption to services and the loss of part of the stations roof. In the Summer of 1968 the Liverpool Exchange to Glasgow Sunday express became the last scheduled passenger service to use steam power. Towards the end of the 1960's many of the express services where diverted to the nearby Liverpool Lime Street station although the electric service remained very busy and a DMU service operated to Wigan, Bolton and Manchester. By the 1970's the station had taken on an air of dereliction. For decades there had been proposals to link Liverpool's three termini (Exchange, Central High Level and Lime Street) with an extension to the underground Mersey Railway. Finally work began in the early 1970's on the construction of an underground loop and link line. A new underground station was built at Moorfields only meters away from the entrance to Liverpool Exchange and a new alignment was built to take the approach lines to Exchange down to this station. Electrification would also be extended along the former Bury Line to Kirkby.

On 20th April 1977 Liverpool Exchange Station closed and several days later trains where diverted to the new underground link line. The new link line now forms part of the Merseyrail Northern Line linking Hunts Cross in the south of the city with northern destinations of Southport, Ormskirk and Kirkby.
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