Second Sydney Airport - Page 5

SYDNEYAHOLIC · March 1st, 2007, 01:58 PM

Good, another service!

I was impressed at how much theyre cramming into that tiny site.

Did you know that Munich International and Sydney handle basically the same amount of passengers yet Munich Airport is at LEAST 3 times larger???

It really pisses me off how ABSOLUTELY BLDY NOTHING is ever done in this city.

Melbournurnians go on and on and on and on about their CRAP and tiny airport when us Sydneysiders are stuck with a facility that is at capacity and will hardly be expanded over the next 20 years, but is still expected to handle more than a double in passenger numbers. IT'S CRAZY!!!

Our government is so damn CRAP. But they're the best we've got at the moment which really does mean that for a while at least, Sydney and NSW are seriously STUFFED!!!

Maybe Melbourne will reclaim the mantle of economic powerhouse of Australia and then it will also be the most livable city.

In my opinion, Sydney doesn't have much of a future.

There, i've said it.

That's why I'm getting out of here asap!

Then I can go to a city where things are actually done - like Melbourne, though I'm actually thinking of Berlin.

Tyson · March 1st, 2007, 02:25 PM

I don't think it's a "new" service as such but rather they are removing the technical stop in Honolulu. Like the newswire said, having to clear US immigration and security when you're not even going there is pretty annoying.

SYDNEYAHOLIC · March 2nd, 2007, 11:21 AM

That's what I meant.

Qantas743 · March 3rd, 2007, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SYDNEYAHOLIC

Maybe Melbourne will reclaim the mantle of economic powerhouse of Australia and then it will also be the most livable city.

Lets hope so!!

SYDNEYAHOLIC · March 3rd, 2007, 01:39 PM

I said MAYBE meaning no bldy way.

Lets not hope so.

Melbourne has some great things going for it and it should stick by them instead of becoming ratrace economic economy economy me me me city.

Trent800 · March 3rd, 2007, 10:48 PM

Melbourne should've become the capital of Australia which wouldve been fair, instead of NSW creating some hick town in the middle of nowhere

Valeroso · March 4th, 2007, 07:23 AM

^ Canberra is one of the most liberal and tolerant places in Australia - far from being a hick town. It's quite a nice place also.

RSG · March 4th, 2007, 11:25 AM

Neither Melbourne or Sydney should of been the capital. Canberra is a perfect position. Needs a little work in terms of growth. I would move there though.

KJBrissy · March 4th, 2007, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trent800

Melbourne should've become the capital of Australia which wouldve been fair, instead of NSW creating some hick town in the middle of nowhere

That's exactly what Sydney said, and that is why a city was created close to the middle...to make it fair.

coastal · March 4th, 2007, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trent800

Melbourne should've become the capital of Australia which wouldve been fair, instead of NSW creating some hick town in the middle of nowhere

The idea of a Federal territory out side the colonial capitals was put forward by George Turner a victorian delegate. The amendment was put forward by George Reid from NSW.
NSW did not create the ACT the Commonwealth took the land from NSW for the site of the capital without payment as was agreed.

Valeroso · March 5th, 2007, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SYDNEYAHOLIC

Did you know that Munich International and Sydney handle basically the same amount of passengers yet Munich Airport is at LEAST 3 times larger???

Well if you can't find comfort in the airport itself, at least find comfort in aesthetics.

Think of it this way; at least people that fly into Sydney get an amazing view! I'll never forget the view I had of the beautiful harbour, the bridge, the Opera house, and the CBD when I flew back to Sydney from a holiday in Melbourne.

Plus, 'Kingsford Smith International Airport" sounds so much more formal and nicer than "Badgery's Creek International Airport".

SYDNEYAHOLIC · March 5th, 2007, 10:52 AM

Yes, but Badgery's Creek would be a much nicer and formal airport.

Valeroso · March 5th, 2007, 10:54 AM

Yep, I was just taking a pretty simplistic narrow minded but optimistic viewpoint.

SYDNEYAHOLIC · March 6th, 2007, 11:02 AM

I happened to be on a bus near Stanmore Station talking to a friend when a Malaysian Airlines Boeing 747-400 roars over our heads so that we can't hear ANYTHING.

I then launched into explaining how right under the busy flightpaths to the parallel runway the NSW gov. has launched a new initiative to house many many thousands and thousands of new people in large apartment blocks - right underneath commercial passenger jets screaming as fast and frequently as they can into and out of Sydney Airport. Obviously, noise pollution might be an issue. That's urban planning at its best I explained to him. (Except if you're in any other city).

Qantas743 · March 7th, 2007, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SYDNEYAHOLIC

I happened to be on a bus near Stanmore Station talking to a friend when a Malaysian Airlines Boeing 747-400 roars over our heads so that we can't hear ANYTHING.

I then launched into explaining how right under the busy flightpaths to the parallel runway the NSW gov. has launched a new initiative to house many many thousands and thousands of new people in large apartment blocks - right underneath commercial passenger jets screaming as fast and frequently as they can into and out of Sydney Airport. Obviously, noise pollution might be an issue. That's urban planning at its best I explained to him. (Except if you're in any other city).

Wow! Sydney will have a really "big city" feel!! The only ones who are affected by noise pollution in Melbourne are cows in paddocks!

Joelby · March 7th, 2007, 01:00 AM

I live in Mascot in a direct line from the third runway, and I hardly hear the planes at all if I have my doors and windows closed. I moved here knowing what it was like. Like me, there will always be people that aren't that bothered by the noise. If it bothers people, then they don't move here. Simple.

Qantas743 · March 7th, 2007, 05:01 AM

I live in the SE suburbs of Melbourne and my house is directly under the flight path for flights to and from New Zealand, Tassie and LA.

It's generally pretty good. It's only when there's a southerly wind we get the flights.

What passes over me:

Morning rush hour includes a few 737s and A320s going to Tassie and an Emirates A340 going to AKL.

After that at around lunch time there are several 747s that pass quite low over my house (QF 025 MEL-AKL-LAX, QF093 MEL-LAX, NZ123/005 MEL-AKL-LAX (777 or 747)).

This is followed by the evening rush hour to NZ which includes a mix of NZ and JQ A320s, a QF 737 and a QF 767.

Finally at around 11:30pm there is an overnight QF 767 freighter flight to AKL which, for some reason, is VERY loud and passes over VERY low.

I'm quite used to it as I know usually what to expect most days.

Occasionally on some evenings the EK A340 once again over-flies my house on approach to MEL upon returning from AKL, the same one I see that morning!

Tyson · March 7th, 2007, 05:19 AM

I'm back with my folks for a while which puts me a few k's to the NE of Tullamarine. In this location I get to see (and hear) almost everything going almost everywhere. I don't complain though, not nearly as bad as the kind of noise that residents around SYD would get.

Avatar · March 7th, 2007, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valeroso

Well if you can't find comfort in the airport itself, at least find comfort in aesthetics.

Think of it this way; at least people that fly into Sydney get an amazing view! I'll never forget the view I had of the beautiful harbour, the bridge, the Opera house, and the CBD when I flew back to Sydney from a holiday in Melbourne.

Plus, 'Kingsford Smith International Airport" sounds so much more formal and nicer than "Badgery's Creek International Airport".

Who said they'd call it Badgery's Creek Int Airport?

I am sure they can modify the name and come up with something exciting.

KJBrissy · March 7th, 2007, 09:00 AM

Sydney International??

March 1st, 2007, 02:25 PM	#82
Tyson Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,179 Likes (Received): 13	I don't think it's a "new" service as such but rather they are removing the technical stop in Honolulu. Like the newswire said, having to clear US immigration and security when you're not even going there is pretty annoying. __________________ “'Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here?' 'That depends a good deal on where you want to get to' said the Cat. 'I don't much care where' said Alice. 'Then it doesn't matter which way you go' said the Cat.” - Lewis Carroll

March 4th, 2007, 11:25 AM	#88
RSG Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 516 Likes (Received): 0	Neither Melbourne or Sydney should of been the capital. Canberra is a perfect position. Needs a little work in terms of growth. I would move there though. __________________ If we act like it matters, and it doesn't matter, then it doesn't matter... but if we act like it doesn't matter and it matters, then it matters.

March 7th, 2007, 05:19 AM	#98
Tyson Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,179 Likes (Received): 13	I'm back with my folks for a while which puts me a few k's to the NE of Tullamarine. In this location I get to see (and hear) almost everything going almost everywhere. I don't complain though, not nearly as bad as the kind of noise that residents around SYD would get. __________________ “'Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here?' 'That depends a good deal on where you want to get to' said the Cat. 'I don't much care where' said Alice. 'Then it doesn't matter which way you go' said the Cat.” - Lewis Carroll

March 7th, 2007, 09:00 AM	#100
KJBrissy ........... Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane Posts: 9,331 Likes (Received): 130	Sydney International?? __________________ "Traditionally what has hurt people has not been rising interest rates but rising unemployment. I don't care what rate you're paying, if you have a mortgage five times your income and you lose your job, you're toast." Gerard Minack, chief economist at Morgan Stanley.

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March 1st, 2007, 01:58 PM	#81
SYDNEYAHOLIC Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 986 Likes (Received): 0	Good, another service! I was impressed at how much theyre cramming into that tiny site. Did you know that Munich International and Sydney handle basically the same amount of passengers yet Munich Airport is at LEAST 3 times larger??? It really pisses me off how ABSOLUTELY BLDY NOTHING is ever done in this city. Melbournurnians go on and on and on and on about their CRAP and tiny airport when us Sydneysiders are stuck with a facility that is at capacity and will hardly be expanded over the next 20 years, but is still expected to handle more than a double in passenger numbers. IT'S CRAZY!!! Our government is so damn CRAP. But they're the best we've got at the moment which really does mean that for a while at least, Sydney and NSW are seriously STUFFED!!! Maybe Melbourne will reclaim the mantle of economic powerhouse of Australia and then it will also be the most livable city. In my opinion, Sydney doesn't have much of a future. There, i've said it. That's why I'm getting out of here asap! Then I can go to a city where things are actually done - like Melbourne, though I'm actually thinking of Berlin.

March 2nd, 2007, 11:21 AM	#83
SYDNEYAHOLIC Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 986 Likes (Received): 0	That's what I meant.

March 3rd, 2007, 01:39 PM	#85
SYDNEYAHOLIC Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 986 Likes (Received): 0	I said MAYBE meaning no bldy way. Lets not hope so. Melbourne has some great things going for it and it should stick by them instead of becoming ratrace economic economy economy me me me city.

March 3rd, 2007, 10:48 PM	#86
Trent800 BANNED Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 40 Likes (Received): 0	Melbourne should've become the capital of Australia which wouldve been fair, instead of NSW creating some hick town in the middle of nowhere

March 4th, 2007, 07:23 AM	#87
Valeroso Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sydney Posts: 507 Likes (Received): 0	^ Canberra is one of the most liberal and tolerant places in Australia - far from being a hick town. It's quite a nice place also.

March 5th, 2007, 10:52 AM	#92
SYDNEYAHOLIC Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 986 Likes (Received): 0	Yes, but Badgery's Creek would be a much nicer and formal airport.

March 5th, 2007, 10:54 AM	#93
Valeroso Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sydney Posts: 507 Likes (Received): 0	Yep, I was just taking a pretty simplistic narrow minded but optimistic viewpoint.

March 6th, 2007, 11:02 AM	#94
SYDNEYAHOLIC Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 986 Likes (Received): 0	I happened to be on a bus near Stanmore Station talking to a friend when a Malaysian Airlines Boeing 747-400 roars over our heads so that we can't hear ANYTHING. I then launched into explaining how right under the busy flightpaths to the parallel runway the NSW gov. has launched a new initiative to house many many thousands and thousands of new people in large apartment blocks - right underneath commercial passenger jets screaming as fast and frequently as they can into and out of Sydney Airport. Obviously, noise pollution might be an issue. That's urban planning at its best I explained to him. (Except if you're in any other city).

March 7th, 2007, 01:00 AM	#96
Joelby dink! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 1,803 Likes (Received): 131	I live in Mascot in a direct line from the third runway, and I hardly hear the planes at all if I have my doors and windows closed. I moved here knowing what it was like. Like me, there will always be people that aren't that bothered by the noise. If it bothers people, then they don't move here. Simple.

March 7th, 2007, 05:01 AM	#97
Qantas743 Proud Victorian! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Melbourne Posts: 4,509 Likes (Received): 27	I live in the SE suburbs of Melbourne and my house is directly under the flight path for flights to and from New Zealand, Tassie and LA. It's generally pretty good. It's only when there's a southerly wind we get the flights. What passes over me: Morning rush hour includes a few 737s and A320s going to Tassie and an Emirates A340 going to AKL. After that at around lunch time there are several 747s that pass quite low over my house (QF 025 MEL-AKL-LAX, QF093 MEL-LAX, NZ123/005 MEL-AKL-LAX (777 or 747)). This is followed by the evening rush hour to NZ which includes a mix of NZ and JQ A320s, a QF 737 and a QF 767. Finally at around 11:30pm there is an overnight QF 767 freighter flight to AKL which, for some reason, is VERY loud and passes over VERY low. I'm quite used to it as I know usually what to expect most days. Occasionally on some evenings the EK A340 once again over-flies my house on approach to MEL upon returning from AKL, the same one I see that morning!