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Old February 12th, 2011, 01:40 AM   #3081
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That's all true
But as soon as you build your H5, A9 will connect to it and that 2+1 part will be upgraded into 2+2 or even 3+2 (because of the slope). So in present condition there will be jams in Croatian and Slovenian side. I'm not trying to discredit you, I'm just saying why the first part of A9 has been built in 2+1 profile
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Old February 12th, 2011, 01:41 AM   #3082
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... The biggest problem is Rijeka-Ljubljana/Trieste. Not short, tough terrain and low traffic. You had it easy on your side, A7 is short and close to Rijeka.
The bolded text is maybe the biggest problem. You don't have such big interes in building a motorway/expressway on that route, but to Croatia it is important. The other problem is tough terrain, which makes the construction expensive

Maybe the solution could be to build half-motorway, which would be cheaper to build, and better for transit traffic in relation Rijeka-Trieste
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Old February 12th, 2011, 01:45 AM   #3083
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@darko06 is a Croat. (a Slovene would never post 3 different smilies in a row )
How could I know, he didn't wrote his location. Maybe he's ashamed of being a Croat or Slovenian (no hard feelings)
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Old February 12th, 2011, 01:48 AM   #3084
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Yes, I think a half-motorway is the solution for starters (but without emergency lanes, which only make it more expensive) and twinning later.
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Old February 12th, 2011, 02:31 AM   #3085
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darko06 quite often writes on this forum.

jelsane + starod is around 8000 AADT, so at least 2x2 expressway would be appropriate.
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Old February 12th, 2011, 09:04 AM   #3086
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That's excellent!

But the problem is that there won't be such roads on Slovenian side (few kms around border crossings) in next few years (until cca 2013-2014), so there will be traffic jams during summer Only their A2 and our A3 are connected and fully built between Ljubljana and Zagreb. Slovenian A4 isn't connected to our A2 yet (cca 15 km missing), and H5 won't be finished and connected to A9 in next 2-3 years...
The last one is our A7 which ends at Rupa/Jelšane border crossing, and Slovenian government haven't decided yet whether to build a motorway/expressway to Divača or Postojna
Why H5? Why they dont build a few kms of their A1 towards your A9?

Anyway, its good that you put such emphases on motorways, a few years and your network will be ready. By the way, what about A5 (on hungarian side M6 misses only a few kms to the border), and your connections to Bosnia, are there any plans? A11?
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Old February 12th, 2011, 11:02 AM   #3087
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Yes, I think a half-motorway is the solution for starters (but without emergency lanes, which only make it more expensive) and twinning later.
Isn't it legally forbidden to build half-motorways in Slovenia?

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Old February 12th, 2011, 11:10 AM   #3088
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How could I know, he didn't wrote his location. Maybe he's ashamed of being a Croat or Slovenian (no hard feelings)
I was born in Croatia, but my parents were born in Slovenia.
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Old February 12th, 2011, 01:40 PM   #3089
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Isn't it legally forbidden to build half-motorways in Slovenia?
True.

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Why H5? Why they dont build a few kms of their A1 towards your A9?
It involves some demanding construction around Koper, hence it will be expensive. Also in Slovenia it is very difficult to put some important state objects into place (I know that because I do that at my work). Economy crisis doesn't help here too and Dars motorway company has big debts to pay. H5 will come but it'll take time. Maybe entrance of Croatia into EU will help to speed up this because of rising traffic (as it happened with A5 in direction of Hungary)
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Old February 12th, 2011, 03:42 PM   #3090
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If half-motorways are forbidden, than Slovenia could perhaps build fast roads instead and replace them with motorways once traffic volume increases?
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Old February 12th, 2011, 05:46 PM   #3091
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Isn't it legally forbidden to build half-motorways in Slovenia?
Will be changed when Verso (soon) become new Minister of transport
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Old February 12th, 2011, 06:22 PM   #3092
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Please, paste more photos of this viaduct under construction within Rijeka bypass.
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Old February 12th, 2011, 08:08 PM   #3093
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Isn't it legally forbidden to build half-motorways in Slovenia?
True.
I meant a road like it will be between Ptuj and Ormož, whatever you call it. I just used Puležan's expression.
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Old February 12th, 2011, 08:14 PM   #3094
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If half-motorways are forbidden, than Slovenia could perhaps build fast roads instead and replace them with motorways once traffic volume increases?
It's harder to put road into place than actually construct it. Nimbys are very strong in Slovenia.
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Old February 12th, 2011, 08:50 PM   #3095
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The strength of NIMBY's depends on the weakness of politicians.
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Old February 12th, 2011, 08:56 PM   #3096
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Actually it is much more complicated.
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Old February 13th, 2011, 04:27 PM   #3097
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LPG staions on A1

Hi guys!
Please tell me in which of these rest area I can fill in with LPG:
1) DOBRA
2) JANJCE
3) ZIR
4) JASENICE
5) VRPOLJE
6) MOSOR
I filled in last year in KOZJAK so I suppose there's still LPG there.
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Old February 13th, 2011, 04:45 PM   #3098
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Hi guys!
Please tell me in which of these rest area I can fill in with LPG:
1) DOBRA
2) JANJCE
3) ZIR
4) JASENICE
5) VRPOLJE
6) MOSOR
I filled in last year in KOZJAK so I suppose there's still LPG there.
all of them in both directions

these which you've mentioned (+ Kozjak) are also all the stations which offer LPG along A1 south from Bosiljevo (between Zagreb and Bosiljevo you can get it on all stations: Stupnik, Desinec, Draganić, Vukova Gorica). or if you're coming from Rijeka, you have it on A7 Rupa, A7 Vrata Jadrana, A6 Ravna Gora.
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Old February 13th, 2011, 05:59 PM   #3099
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Isn't it legally forbidden to build half-motorways in Slovenia?
I've never heard of that. Since when, keber? And why? Because of the accidents on slovenika in the 90's? Which law says that?
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Old February 13th, 2011, 10:31 PM   #3100
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I was looking at the Neum corridor on Google Earth, and it seems that there is only one border crossing west of Neum, but not to the east, is this correct? This means that passing through Bosnia requires only one border crossing?
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