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Old February 13th, 2011, 10:42 PM   #3101
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No, they're on both sides, but a little further east.
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Old February 13th, 2011, 10:42 PM   #3102
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Why H5? Why they dont build a few kms of their A1 towards your A9?

Anyway, its good that you put such emphases on motorways, a few years and your network will be ready. By the way, what about A5 (on hungarian side M6 misses only a few kms to the border), and your connections to Bosnia, are there any plans? A11?
Well, the motorway network is already in very good condition - almost all big cities and big number of small ones are connected (Zagreb, Split, Rijeka, Osijek, Zadar, Pula, Slavonski Brod, Karlovac, Varaždin, Krapina, Šibenik, Đakovo, Gospić...). The most important thing now is to connect Dubrovnik to A1 and Bjelovar and Virovitica to A13.

The other important thing is A11. Works are being done on most important section Zagreb-Velika Gorica (but still it goes too slow ) and section Buševec-Lekenik. Without the first section (ZG-V.Gorica), this motorway has no point.

Regarding the A5, there is some 30 kms missing, but there are some movements: the competition for the bridge across Drava river and the competition for supervision of construction for the last section Sredanci-border crossing (3,2 km)

There are some other projects which are not so urgent, such as A7: Rijeka-Žuta Lokva which will connect Rijeka (and Istra) with Dalmatia, and A12: Sv.Helena (near Zagreb)-Koprivnica
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Old February 14th, 2011, 08:27 AM   #3103
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I was looking at the Neum corridor on Google Earth, and it seems that there is only one border crossing west of Neum, but not to the east, is this correct? This means that passing through Bosnia requires only one border crossing?
Eastern border crossing is further to the east on Croatian territory near the bridge over a bay. It was to expensive to move all infrastructure on the exact border line.
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Old February 14th, 2011, 12:56 PM   #3104
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Northwest border crossing building: http://goo.gl/rfUTt
Southest border crossing building: http://goo.gl/h2VTg
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Old February 14th, 2011, 03:58 PM   #3105
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Old February 14th, 2011, 04:13 PM   #3106
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Well, the motorway network is already in very good condition - almost all big cities and big number of small ones are connected (Zagreb, Split, Rijeka, Osijek, Zadar, Pula, Slavonski Brod, Karlovac, Varaždin, Krapina, Šibenik, Đakovo, Gospić...). The most important thing now is to connect Dubrovnik to A1 and Bjelovar and Virovitica to A13.

The other important thing is A11. Works are being done on most important section Zagreb-Velika Gorica (but still it goes too slow ) and section Buševec-Lekenik. Without the first section (ZG-V.Gorica), this motorway has no point.

Regarding the A5, there is some 30 kms missing, but there are some movements: the competition for the bridge across Drava river and the competition for supervision of construction for the last section Sredanci-border crossing (3,2 km)

There are some other projects which are not so urgent, such as A7: Rijeka-Žuta Lokva which will connect Rijeka (and Istra) with Dalmatia, and A12: Sv.Helena (near Zagreb)-Koprivnica
Well thats about 400 km which must be build in total in the years to come. Thats not much.

But I think apart from finishing A1 and building A11/A13 also doubling of A8 is very important.

By the way, whats the last situation with A1? I red (on wikipedia) building of Peljasac bridge is currently in process. When will be the section between Ploce and Peljasac bridge be delivered?
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Old February 14th, 2011, 05:40 PM   #3107
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Pelješac bridge construction is on hold, no money, so no clear answer to your questions. Plans down there at the moment are pretty much a mess, a few weeks ago Puležan wrote this:

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No one knows exact plans.
The first plan was to build A1 till Dubrovnik, but now there is a plan to build A1 to BIH-border, and an expressway to Dubrovnik which would go across the Pelješac bridge and probably be a single-carriageway road

Up until 2012 only the A1 part to Ploče interchange will be finished. There are problems with the money and affairs in HAC (croatian motorway company) so Dubrovnik could get an motorway/expressway probably in 2020
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Old March 1st, 2011, 07:30 PM   #3108
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Construction of the second half of Istrian Y (A9) - opening in June 2011

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Old March 1st, 2011, 07:30 PM   #3109
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Old March 1st, 2011, 07:31 PM   #3110
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Old March 1st, 2011, 07:32 PM   #3111
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Old March 1st, 2011, 09:49 PM   #3112
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^nice. where is the location of the 2 last photos?
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Old March 1st, 2011, 09:58 PM   #3113
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The roundabout is somewhere here (green arrow). So it must be between this location and the ending of A9 on google maps. In lower half of picture is barrier and just near the middle of pic is Portorož airport, direction 33.
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Old March 1st, 2011, 10:35 PM   #3114
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If we assume that the temporary end of A9 motorway (the end of divided lanes) will be somewhere AFTER the Umag/Plovanija intersection in the direction of Koper/Trieste, why is this sign (placed BEFORE the Umag/Plovanija interchange in the same direction) yellow instead of green?
And if the names of towns with significant Italian minority in the Croatian part of Istria are bilingual, why the same principle isn't applied for names of towns in Slovenia or Italy (Koper/Capodistria instead of Koper or Trieste/Trst instead of Trieste)?

(I forgot to say before that one of my grand-grandmother was Italian.)
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Old March 1st, 2011, 10:36 PM   #3115
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This sign shows perfectly why bilingual signs don't work.
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Old March 1st, 2011, 11:38 PM   #3116
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So, what would you do instead, ofcourse with respect to minorities?
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Old March 1st, 2011, 11:44 PM   #3117
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Simply only sign the actual place name. That is Pula, Rijeka or Trieste. Signs are not meant as advertising for local minorities or politics. Some cities have maybe 3 or 4 significant minorities, what do you want to do, have 15 names on directional signs?

Other names could be reserved for city limit signs.

You have to be practical, I'm sure the Italian minority in Croatia is also capable of finding their way with Croatian-language destinations.
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Old March 2nd, 2011, 12:23 AM   #3118
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Dear Chris, on the Soprelevata from Trieste to Villa Opicina there are bilingual signs for Capodistria/Koper.
Also, in Graz at Knoten Webling and throughout A9 from Graz to Spielfeld there are bilingual signs for Marburg/Maribor.
I know the situation because I regularly drive sections Zagreb-Maribor-Graz and Zagreb-Ljubljana-Koper-Poreč/or Trieste.
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Old March 2nd, 2011, 12:28 AM   #3119
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I wasn't denying these bilingual signs don't exist. I'm simply pointing out multi-lingual signs tend to be messy, especially with more than 2 or 3 destinations. On the yellow sign above Trieste and Koper aren't even signed with their alternate names, imagine how the sign would look if they signed all alternate names (Trst and Capodistria).

Here's an example:

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Old March 2nd, 2011, 02:01 AM   #3120
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Visually, I would say that Belgian table is wider than Croatian, just enough to put all bilingual names upon without problems. Personally, the design of Belgian table is simplier and better than their Croatian counterpart.
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