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Old June 30th, 2011, 11:01 PM   #3321
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According to Google Earth, D62 road runs through the territory of Bosnia-Herzegovina for a brief distance east of Vrgorac. Is this correct, and are there border checks?
it is wrong. it runs just parallely with the border. i have some photos of it somewhere.
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Old June 30th, 2011, 11:10 PM   #3322
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That supposed route of A1 between Vrgorac and Kobiljača (dotted line) is correct by my opinion, because it passes on southern slopes of the hill, leaving the valley southbound (presumably Otrić-polje/Otrić-field) intact.
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Old July 1st, 2011, 12:10 AM   #3323
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Thanks. As for renaming D425 to A1, that would require building second carriageway, right? Because as far as I remember there are two tunnels and a few bridges that are only half profile. Or does your law permit half-profile motorways? Well, now that I think of it, it probably does, for example tunnel Mala Kapela before 2009 comes to mind
A1 will not follow the route of D425, so D425 won't be renamed. There will be an interchange on A1 called "Ploče", from which the D425 (which is an expressway) is going towards town and harbor Ploče (blue line on the left side of the picture). Few kilometres to the south-east, another interchange will be built: A1/A10, from which A10 will go towards BIH and Mostar, Sarajevo...





D425 is an expressway, which is in 2x2 profile on the first section till the rest area Ploče (odmorište), and 1x1 on the last one, until the town of Ploče. You can see the 2x2 and 1x1 sections on this diagram:
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Old July 1st, 2011, 12:24 AM   #3324
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Great, thanks!
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Old July 1st, 2011, 01:16 AM   #3325
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So I saw the works on tunnel Mali Prolog, which is in fact part of the D425 expw.
I have rightfully assumed that A1, after Vrgorac intersection, will pass on the northern slopes of the hill, near the border, parallel to D62.
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Old July 1st, 2011, 09:59 AM   #3326
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A1 Ravča-Vrgorac

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Old July 1st, 2011, 10:19 AM   #3327
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congratulations! I passed there on my bike exactly one month ago, and was impressed by the tempo of the workers finishing up this newest section. Absolutely lovely news for today.
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Old July 1st, 2011, 06:30 PM   #3328
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last sentence translated: "we should be able to travel from Zagreb to Ploče using the motorway by the end of 2012"
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Old July 2nd, 2011, 10:54 PM   #3329
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It is village road, very narrow, slow, lots of car parked around.
Not a good choice


From Vrgorac to Ploče you have two roads
1. M.Prolog ( D 62 )
2. Staševica (Z 6208 )
IMO second one is better choice

Are we sure that now this shortcut isn't the best way to get to the expressway to Ploce? Passing throgh Vrgorac it take 5 km more, ins't it?
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Old July 3rd, 2011, 01:39 AM   #3330
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Congratulations on the new motorway section and the 4th motorway to Slovenia. We're far behind, as always.
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Old July 3rd, 2011, 02:03 AM   #3331
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they're pushing us too much 4 motorways to one small country? who does that.
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Old July 3rd, 2011, 02:29 AM   #3332
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^ Italians (if we count A23 ).
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Old July 3rd, 2011, 11:40 AM   #3333
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Why does exit Vrgorac have number 30a? Why not 31?

Sequentional nubering of exits is IMHO really confusing. E. g.: You are driving from ST to ZG near Bosiljevo (exit 5), and you are expecting next exit no. 4, but it does not exist, and the next existing one has no. 3. Similar case is around exit Vučevica. Exit Progomet has no. 24, you are expecting the next number 25, but the next exit Vučevica is 24a. 25 is Dugopolje. Same with Donja Zdenčina and Jakuševac-Kosnica exits on A3.

I understand adding -a, -b, -c,... to number if it is a new exit which wasn't planned originally (Lučko 1-Donja Zdenčina 1a-Jastrebarsko 2), but I really don't understand it in cases like Prgomet-Vučevica (24-24a) and Vrgorac (30a).
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Could Vrgorac be a temporary exit until A1 is extended further? Vrgorac can also easily be accessed via the Ravča exit.
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Why does exit Vrgorac have number 30a? Why not 31?

Sequentional nubering of exits is IMHO really confusing. E. g.: You are driving from ST to ZG near Bosiljevo (exit 5), and you are expecting next exit no. 4, but it does not exist, and the next existing one has no. 3. Similar case is around exit Vučevica. Exit Progomet has no. 24, you are expecting the next number 25, but the next exit Vučevica is 24a. 25 is Dugopolje. Same with Donja Zdenčina and Jakuševac-Kosnica exits on A3.

I understand adding -a, -b, -c,... to number if it is a new exit which wasn't planned originally (Lučko 1-Donja Zdenčina 1a-Jastrebarsko 2), but I really don't understand it in cases like Prgomet-Vučevica (24-24a) and Vrgorac (30a).

exit #4 is u/c. it was planned when the whole motorway was planned, it was built, but wasn't finnished. that's the only place at HR motorways where one exit is missing in a row.
exits with additional letters were not yet planned when the project of motorway was made (1a, 24a). about Vrgorac - that is probably because they have been changing plans and it was not planned to be made at first. it is not temporary exit. that number has surprised me either.
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exit #4 is u/c. it was planned when the whole motorway was planned, it was built, but wasn't finnished. that's the only place at HR motorways where one exit is missing in a row.
I know that it is U/C. I saw it yesterday I've just mentioned it because of my argumentation that sequentional numbering is not exactly the best way of exit-numbering.

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exits with additional letters were not yet planned when the project of motorway was made (1a, 24a).
Yes, 1a I understand. Lučko and Jastrebarsko existed when D. Zdenčina was built. There were not many options But 24a Vučevica was built together with section Vrpolje-Dugopolje, wasn't it? Was there any problem to get Vučevica number 25 and Dugopolje 26?
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Yes, 1a I understand. Lučko and Jastrebarsko existed when D. Zdenčina was built. There were not many options But 24a Vučevica was built together with section Vrpolje-Dugopolje, wasn't it? Was there any problem to get Vučevica number 25 and Dugopolje 26?
nope. it was built later. our ex prime minister (who is now in jail ) came out with idea that he could make a motorway exit to the village where he was born. and, of course, take few hundreds of thousands euros to his pocket on that project. that exit have average amount of traffic cca 150 vehicles daily
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wow What a 'criminal' story. I drove there in 2004 and it seems to me that it was built - or maybe I have an eclipse of my mind
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wow What a 'criminal' story. I drove there in 2004 and it seems to me that it was built - or maybe I have an eclipse of my mind
i think it was finnished in 2005. the project worthed cca 8 mil. €, and the works were made by company from brothers Žužul, whose picture you can find in encyclopedia under letter "E": economical criminal.
an excuse for that exit wsas actually nice idea of building tunnel under Kozjak mountain, so on that exit you could easily reach Trogir and eastern suburbia od Split. imo that's very good idea, but unfortunately, that was just an excuse to build that exit and take the money. tunnel maybe will be built in next 20 years
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1 km before Tunel Konjsko. Look dir. ZG. Up on hill is wind turbine - transmission of this turbine was made in Košice, Slovakia. My father done the defectoscopy testing of it
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