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Old May 15th, 2012, 12:29 AM   #3921
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The bridge would still be useful for Peljesac and Korcula.
Is there a plan to connect Korcula with a bridge? That strait is very narrow.
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Old May 15th, 2012, 12:35 AM   #3922
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Old May 15th, 2012, 01:04 AM   #3923
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The bridge would still be useful for Pelješac and Korčula.
Is there a plan to connect Korcula with a bridge? That strait is very narrow.
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.
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Old May 15th, 2012, 01:35 AM   #3924
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Not that I'd know of.
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Old May 15th, 2012, 02:06 AM   #3925
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The bridge would still be useful for Pelješac and Korčula.
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Is there a plan to connect Korcula with a bridge? That strait is very narrow.
Korčula (the whole island) has only 16000 inhabitants, so if you ask me, there's no need for a bridge, although there were some ideas to make it. Also its maintenance would be high (due to weather conditions, salt etc) and traffic would be low. To anticipate your next question (if you ask why does Krk have a bridge while having also just 17000 people), Krk got a bridge because of the industry (oil rafinery) and international airport (for Rijeka).

The Pelješac bridge, on the other hand, would be useful not only to the Pelješac itself, but also for the whole Dubrovačko-neretvanska county, because it would connect it to the rest of motherland without passing through BIH (which will become a problem when we enter the schengen system). But the past government didn't decide it to carry A1, but an expressway. We'll have to wait couple of years to see what will be decided when construction begins again
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Old May 15th, 2012, 02:24 AM   #3926
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What about the bridge to Pag with only 8,400 inhabitants?
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Old May 15th, 2012, 02:27 AM   #3927
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Korčula (the whole island) has only 16000 inhabitants, so if you ask me, there's no need for a bridge, although there were some ideas to make it.
Do you have any more details? That would be a very interesting project from the technical perspective (not that I think it's a good idea - there is no need for a bridge there and it could ruin the beautiful landscape). Were there any more detailed plans or at least a proposed location, or was it just a loose idea?
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Old May 15th, 2012, 05:00 AM   #3928
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It was updated with new satellite imagery a week ago or so.
Forgotten about this. Actually I meant, how old is that website?
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Old May 15th, 2012, 09:14 AM   #3929
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What about the bridge to Pag with only 8,400 inhabitants?
That strait is few meters wide, not more than 1km like Krk or Korcula.
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Old May 15th, 2012, 11:29 AM   #3930
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A bit more, about 200 m wide with pretty high cliffs and deep sea. But still much less than at least 1,2 km between Pelješac and Korčula.
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Old May 15th, 2012, 11:47 AM   #3931
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What about the bridge to Pag with only 8,400 inhabitants?
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That strait is few meters wide, not more than 1km like Krk or Korcula.
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A bit more, about 200 m wide with pretty high cliffs and deep sea. But still much less than at least 1,2 km between Pelješac and Korčula.
Well, at Pag there's the biggest saltern in ex-Yugoslavia, so it was more convenient to have road access to the island The Pag bridge is 300 m long, and is arched bridge, so it wasn't so complicated to build it, like it would be to make Korčula bridge.
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Old May 15th, 2012, 11:49 AM   #3932
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Do you have any more details? That would be a very interesting project from the technical perspective (not that I think it's a good idea - there is no need for a bridge there and it could ruin the beautiful landscape). Were there any more detailed plans or at least a proposed location, or was it just a loose idea?
It was planned back in the late 60s, but was never realised. Today it's put into spatial plans, so here you have some plans with either a bridge and a tunnel under the sea:
http://nakovana.com/2011/03/most-ili...jesac-korcula/



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Old May 15th, 2012, 11:55 AM   #3933
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Forgotten about this. Actually I meant, how old is that website?
Arkod? It's from 2009. It's the project carried out by the Ministry of agriculture, and its purpose is to identify cadastral plots by their users. You have multiple layers to see (ortophoto, topographic, boundaries of counties and cities, cadastre boundaries etc.)
http://www.arkod.hr/
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Old May 15th, 2012, 01:24 PM   #3934
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It was planned back in the late 60s, but was never realised. Today it's put into spatial plans, so here you have some plans with either a bridge and a tunnel under the sea:
http://nakovana.com/2011/03/most-ili...jesac-korcula/
Thanks. I guess it could be a big boost for local economy if there was a road connection with the mainland (especially for less touristic western part of the island). Still that seems like a huge investment - not only would you need a huge bridge or an undersea tunnel, but also accompanying road infrastructure for that (both on Pelješac and Korčula).
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Old May 15th, 2012, 02:15 PM   #3935
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Arkod? It's from 2009. It's the project carried out by the Ministry of agriculture, and its purpose is to identify cadastral plots by their users. You have multiple layers to see (ortophoto, topographic, boundaries of counties and cities, cadastre boundaries etc.)
http://www.arkod.hr/
This application was made by Slovenian company, which made GERK
a Slovenian version of above. Both applications were made to control usage of arable land for agricultural subsidies by EU.

As for Korčula bridge: interesting project, but I think it is not sensible to make very expensive fixed connection to every corner of the land.

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Old May 29th, 2012, 11:08 AM   #3936
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Old May 31st, 2012, 12:12 AM   #3937
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Old May 31st, 2012, 05:22 AM   #3938
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i don't see anything wrong with that.
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Old May 31st, 2012, 08:18 PM   #3939
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Personally, I think this is better than usual concrete supporting walls, and in this area it wasn't possible to make normal earth embankment, because the slope is too big. Also, it's the place where the future junction of A7 and Rijeka bypass will be placed (A7 coming from north will exit the tunnel nearby, so the ground must be solid not to collapse). It will look better when the whole section is finished, because everything else will be green (when construction ends)
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Old June 6th, 2012, 10:25 PM   #3940
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How is it going for the motorway Zagreb-Dubrovnik?
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