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Old February 3rd, 2013, 08:32 PM   #4201
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Old February 3rd, 2013, 11:26 PM   #4202
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I agree. Roads Novi Vinodolski-Senj and Senj-Vratnik are definitively ones of most dangerous roads in the world.
Even the Scenic Highway 1 in CA, USA is wider and safer. Drove there a few years ago.
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Old February 3rd, 2013, 11:31 PM   #4203
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everything has started 2 years ago when some American portal has included D8 among 10 most dangerous roads of the world
competition was made mostly of those Latinamerican and Himalayan roads of death.
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Old February 3rd, 2013, 11:33 PM   #4204
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I agree. Roads Novi Vinodolski-Senj and Senj-Vratnik are definitively ones of most dangerous roads in the world.
Even the Scenic Highway 1 in CA, USA is wider and safer. Drove there a few years ago.
i can immidiately write 10 more dangerous roads in Croatia than D8. people, please think what you are writing.
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Old February 4th, 2013, 09:35 AM   #4205
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I agree. Roads Novi Vinodolski-Senj and Senj-Vratnik are definitively ones of most dangerous roads in the world.
Even the Scenic Highway 1 in CA, USA is wider and safer. Drove there a few years ago.
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Old February 5th, 2013, 01:28 AM   #4206
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Yeah, I agree. The D8 is not really dangerous, it's just very annoying to drive from Rijeka southwards towards Zadar because of the many curves.

In my opinion the street from Vrgorac to Ploce - the direct street through Staševica, not the D513 - is much more dangerous for example.
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Old February 5th, 2013, 01:31 AM   #4207
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well, i guess eu money could be a good solution for this problem.
Yeah, most likely, but it will take some time to get money (look for example at Romania how long it took to get money for roads after joining EU). And afaik the Transeuropean Corridors will be preferred first. So building A7 could last some time...
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Old February 5th, 2013, 05:45 AM   #4208
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c'mon. youre nearly done with all of your network. what do you want to build more apart from A1 and A7 (and maybe the totally unneeded A5)?
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Old February 5th, 2013, 04:47 PM   #4209
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that road is always empty. i'd say that in the summer the number of vehicles from Žuta Lokva to Senj doesn't exceed 3-4000.
When I drove that road it looked empty only until first ascent. Then I needed quite some time because overtaking of slow vehicles is practically impossible - and that was outside tourist season. There are quite some trucks there that try to save some fuel and toll on Rijeka-Split route.
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Old February 5th, 2013, 11:11 PM   #4210
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c'mon. youre nearly done with all of your network. what do you want to build more apart from A1 and A7 (and maybe the totally unneeded A5)?
Connecting Dubrovnik and further to Montenegro + the solution of the Neum "problem" will have higher priority for EU funds. That's a TEN-Corridor.

And A5 is also high priority: Pan-European Corridor Vc
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Old February 5th, 2013, 11:27 PM   #4211
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Connecting Dubrovnik and further to Montenegro + the solution of the Neum "problem" will have higher priority for EU funds. That's a TEN-Corridor.
It isn't.

http://ec.europa.eu/ten/transport/ma.../axes/pp00.pdf
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Old February 5th, 2013, 11:49 PM   #4212
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old map.
Some corridors are changing.
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Old February 5th, 2013, 11:58 PM   #4213
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So can you show me a map or another proof that the Adriatic-Ionian motorway is a TEN-T corridor?
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Old February 6th, 2013, 12:01 AM   #4214
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No, because new corridors are not defined yet. But there will be changes to above map quite soon.
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Old February 6th, 2013, 09:41 PM   #4215
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I drove from Crikvenica to Senj by bus and it didn't look very dangerous. It was just very boring. Passenger cars could hadrly overtake us, but traffic was very low and bus driver stopped several times to let them pass
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I drove from Crikvenica to Senj by bus and it didn't look very dangerous. It was just very boring. Passenger cars could hadrly overtake us, but traffic was very low and bus driver stopped several times to let them pass
from bus it might look boring. but driving a car there brings much fun really. ok, the party begins south of Senj (although some parts of Novi Vinodolski - Senj already are interesting). but D8 definitely is pleasure to drive (especially out of tourist season)
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Old February 7th, 2013, 01:17 AM   #4217
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it's a scenic road, but it's not exciting if you get stuck in 50 km/h queue.
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Old February 7th, 2013, 01:37 AM   #4218
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So can you show me a map or another proof that the Adriatic-Ionian motorway is a TEN-T corridor?
OK, I was wrong the TEN corridors are not yet defined, but that will most likely happen as soon as Croatia joins EU.

The connection is part of the core road network since 2004: http://ec.europa.eu/ten/infrastructu...annexe_1_b.pdf

And it's also a proposal for the further development: http://ec.europa.eu/transport/themes...iii_part07.pdf
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Old February 7th, 2013, 01:51 AM   #4219
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with A7 connecting Rijeka and Zuta lokva, I think slovenian connection 3rd axis Novo mesto - Bosiljevo becomes irrelevant. for traffic coming from Villach, Ljubljana - Postojna -Rijeka - Zuta lokva is better option, and traffic from Graz goes via Zagreb anyway.

that's one point more for Postojna variant over Divaca, it is useful for Trieste and Villach.
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