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Old June 12th, 2013, 10:27 PM   #4561
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I dont think it will be finished in october, especially D513 - no way.
Maybe next summer.

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Are we sure it is the D513? I am sure that I saw small signposts with 425 on it.
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Old June 12th, 2013, 11:05 PM   #4562
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Are there any delays of the A1 cause the motorway wont finished this july
Look at the page 218 http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=4348

There is no way that it can be done in 60 days (from 30.04. till 01.07)
And it was not planed to be finished before october 2013


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I'm not sure
I dont think it has official number yet
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Old June 12th, 2013, 11:22 PM   #4563
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These numbers aren't correct. Zagreb isn't 400 km farther than Split, more like 370 km.
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Old June 12th, 2013, 11:59 PM   #4564
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These numbers aren't correct. Zagreb isn't 400 km farther than Split, more like 370 km.
the sign is correct, you are wrong. 380 km is distance between Dugopolje and Lučko. Dugopolje - Split is 10-15 km, and Lučko - Zagreb is also some 10 km, i don't know official figures.
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Old June 13th, 2013, 12:30 AM   #4565
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Yes, but you don't have to go through Split to get to Zagreb, so you don't have to count Dugopolje-Split (~20 km to the city centre). Dugopolje-Zagreb is ~390 km, so 390 - 20 = 370 km (approximately).

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Old June 13th, 2013, 12:53 AM   #4566
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you are right. Lučko is 491 km far from this place, Zagreb cca 505.
distance to Split is right.
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Old June 13th, 2013, 01:15 AM   #4567
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I'm allergic to such mistakes; we have plenty of them as well.
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Old June 13th, 2013, 01:18 AM   #4568
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Don't be so impatient. For example, one can drive from Vrgorac, HR to Zwolle, NL or to Palancedrecht, NL on motorway all the way along, except for Karawankentunnel, which is 1x1. Forty years ago there was motorway from Netherlands only to Golling near Salzburg, AT. In those days, my late father drove us one whole day from Zagreb to Golling and the next day from Golling to Amsterdam. Oh, how he would loved driving the route on motorway only.
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Old June 13th, 2013, 01:21 AM   #4569
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I'm allergic to such mistakes; we have plenty of them as well.
For example, they only recently changed the distance plate on Rijeka beltway where the erroneus distance to Zagreb was stated as 186 kms. The right one should be about 156 kms.
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Old June 13th, 2013, 01:30 AM   #4570
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Don't be so impatient.
This is a road section, so people here will be grumpy until there's a motorway to Greece.
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Old June 13th, 2013, 09:51 AM   #4571
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Don't be so impatient. For example, one can drive from Vrgorac, HR to Zwolle, NL or to Palancedrecht, NL on motorway all the way along
Why didn't you tell me before? I have taken a plane to Split instead of driving to it
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Old June 13th, 2013, 03:22 PM   #4572
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Are we sure it is the D513? I am sure that I saw small signposts with 425 on it.
It's D425, surely and officially. It's put in the official list of roads in Croatia :-)

All roads in Croatia which connect ports (sea-, river- and airports) with motorways or other state routes, have 4xx designation ;-)
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Old June 13th, 2013, 07:45 PM   #4573
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I'm allergic to such mistakes; we have plenty of them as well.
we would say: that's a chamomile.
here is more hardcore thing: first here and then 8 km after that
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Old June 13th, 2013, 10:00 PM   #4574
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The only purpose of those (not cheap) signs is to show you distances to towns that follow, and they can't even do that. It's like you pay someone to do something for you and he forgets to do it.
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Old June 18th, 2013, 01:04 PM   #4575
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Regarding the Pelješac Bridge:
http://www.vecernji.hr/vijesti/most-...-clanak-570182

Things are still going slow - ongoing discussions whether to build a bridge or a tunnel.

Very bad news from Hrvatske Autoceste:
http://www.vecernji.hr/vijesti/zabor...-clanak-570292

A11 section Lekenik – Mošćenica will not be built
A5 section Osijek - Beli Manastir - Border Hungary/Croatia will only be built as a 1x1 road.

Frustrating what's going on these days.

No word about the new bridge at Gradiška that would connect A3 to Bosnian E-661. Any news about that?
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Old June 18th, 2013, 01:37 PM   #4576
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A pity, but understandable. The western part of A11 was already nearly finished in 2011, except for the link to A3.

A5 has very low traffic volumes, so building a single carriageway first is not a crazy idea.

In my opinion, construction should focus on getting A1 at least to Dubrovnik.
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Old June 18th, 2013, 06:06 PM   #4577
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In my opinion, construction should focus on getting A1 at least to Dubrovnik.
I still think the most sensible move right now is to get something built from Dubrovnik Airport to Zaton Doli. Neum will be argued about for years - but if there's the motorway already in place to Dubrovnik Airport, then there is extra pressure on Bosnia to either accept a transit agreement or to accept the bridge.

But does Croatia even have the money to start building - well - anything?
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Old June 19th, 2013, 01:31 AM   #4578
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A5 has very low traffic volumes, so building a single carriageway first is not a crazy idea.
Isn't the existing road quite good anyway?
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Old June 19th, 2013, 02:08 AM   #4579
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half motorway can always turn into full, especially on flat terrain. Croatia built many motorways like that, even extremely hilly Rijeka-Karlovac was at first 2x1 or 2+1.
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Old June 19th, 2013, 10:28 AM   #4580
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The projects are not terminated, just stopped until better (monetary) times
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