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Old July 2nd, 2013, 10:35 PM   #4661
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yeah, for some reason the road follows the border line for some 2-3 km.
I'd say because of parcels.
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Old July 2nd, 2013, 10:36 PM   #4662
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Congratulations to enter the EU!!, now it's time to enter Euro (or not ) and of course in Schengen. Is previsted some date to enter Croatian in Schengen?
they're speaking about 2015
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Old July 2nd, 2013, 10:49 PM   #4663
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maybe you can make it before RO&BG
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Old July 2nd, 2013, 11:56 PM   #4664
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they're speaking about 2015
I think a lot depends on the attitude that other EU members take. They can't let in Croatia before Romania and Bulgaria, but it's understandable that there is a huge amount of reluctance to have no border controls between the Turkish border and the Schengen countries.

My gut feeling is that we won't see Schengen expansion at the land border anytime soon. The Croatian border is scarily long and sparsely populated - can Croatia really protect such a long frontier?

For what it's worth - my own view is that Croatia, Bulgaria and Romania should be allowed to join (already, as soon as Croatia is technically ready with the connection to SIS) under the provision that all traffic must use established crossing points that have guards present. A similar solution was used for many years on the Swiss border - there's no reason why it can't work here too.
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Old July 3rd, 2013, 02:06 PM   #4665
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The situation is different, Switzerland still has custom controls, so it's necessary that the traffic flows through a crossing point with custom offices.
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Old July 4th, 2013, 08:21 PM   #4666
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A1 motorway, part between exits Zagvozd and Ravča (look from Biokovo mountains)


D512 road Makarska–Ravča
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Old July 4th, 2013, 08:25 PM   #4667
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Sveti Ilija tunnel to open on Monday (08.07.2013) Toll: 20 HRK.

Source in Croatian language: Tunel ‘Sv. Ilija’ otvara se 8. srpnja, a tunelarina je 20 kuna!
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Old July 4th, 2013, 09:16 PM   #4668
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Will that be a national road?
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Old July 4th, 2013, 09:28 PM   #4669
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Old July 6th, 2013, 04:36 PM   #4670
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What happend to the A1 when it will be finished to Metkovic? Will it extend to Opuzen?
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Old July 6th, 2013, 04:48 PM   #4671
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What happend to the A1 when it will be finished to Metkovic?
It will be opened for traffic.

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Will it extend to Opuzen?
Nope! (see previous discussion about Neum situation etcetera)

But I have one more question I didn't get from the former pics: Will the A1 end at the Metkovic interchange or will it end east of the interchange at the D62 (see OSM)? Will there be an advanced provision (I don't know the exact English word, the German one is "Bauvorleistung")?
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Old July 6th, 2013, 04:57 PM   #4672
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What's the status of that project between Ploce and Opuzen: OSM. A new 4-laned road?
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Old July 6th, 2013, 05:03 PM   #4673
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But I think it can be extend to Opuzen, cause it have nothing to do with the Neum problem.
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Old July 6th, 2013, 05:49 PM   #4674
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of course it has, who needs a motorway which ends at Opuzen, be serious please!

If the Pelješac bridge really is going to be built one day it would really make sense to prolongate A1 till the bridge and further via Pelješac to Dubrovnik and then somehow to Montenegro. But all of this has been discussed in this topic several times.

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But I have one more question I didn't get from the former pics: Will the A1 end at the Metkovic interchange or will it end east of the interchange at the D62 ...?
Our croatian friends will surely answer that question, but my guess is it will end at the interchange and not further, there is exit Kula Norinska and one can access D62 there.

Btw. something different, i read about Jadrolinija added a bigger ship on the Ploče Trpanj ferry line (only way to avoid Neum), does that mean there are more departures too now or did the simply change the ferries and the bigger one runs due the actual schedule?
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Old July 6th, 2013, 05:52 PM   #4675
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Then until the border crossing Klek
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Old July 6th, 2013, 06:31 PM   #4676
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But I have one more question I didn't get from the former pics: Will the A1 end at the Metkovic interchange or will it end east of the interchange at the D62 (see OSM)? Will there be an advanced provision (I don't know the exact English word, the German one is "Bauvorleistung")?
It's planned that A1 go further south, but not at the moment, before we decide which solution is going to be chosen for the "Neum problem". About the Metković interchange - it's strange because it will be a TOTSO. As you can see on the map, if you continue driving on A1, you will enter the A10, finishing at the BIH border. So one day when A1 will be extended to the south, you'll have to turn off if you want to continue on A1...

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What's the status of that project between Ploce and Opuzen: OSM. A new 4-laned road?
It's a long-time ago planned 4-lane expressway, which was planned to continue from the existing D425 expressway from this point and go towards Opuzen. As you can see on the satellite imagery, the existing D425 is a 4-lane road from the A1 interchange up until the mentioned point, and from that point its a 2-lane road (still expressway standard) up to Ploče. So it was planned that D425 starts in interchange with A1 and few kilometres later to branch on 2 sides: towards Ploče and towards Opuzen.

For the time being, it won't be built. Maybe it will be the beginning of the future expressway going via Pelješac bridge

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Btw. something different, i read about Jadrolinija added a bigger ship on the Ploče Trpanj ferry line (only way to avoid Neum), does that mean there are more departures too now or did the simply change the ferries and the bigger one runs due the actual schedule?
Here's the post by polde404, showing the new ferry and its timetable

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Uz suglasnost Agencije za obalni linijski pomorski promet na liniji 633 Ploče – Trpanj i obratno uključen je brod m/t "JADRAN" kapaciteta 1.200 putnika i 138 vozila, od dana 4. srpnja 2013. godine.

Do 31. 8. vozi 7. puta dnevno (a do 30. 9. - 5 puta što je ipak bolje nego 3): http://www.jadrolinija.hr/pdfs/633.ljeto.2013.hr.pdf


capacity: 1200 passengers, 138 cars
timetable: 7 rides per day
duration of the trip: ~60 min
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Old July 6th, 2013, 06:48 PM   #4677
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It's planned that A1 go further south, but not at the moment
I know. But are the bridges also be built now or not? Will you recongnize that there could be an interchange in the future?

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Old July 6th, 2013, 07:00 PM   #4678
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Here's the post by polde404, showing the new ferry and its timetable


capacity: 1200 passengers, 138 cars
timetable: 7 rides per day
duration of the trip: ~60 min
Finally! I have no clue what the capacity of the previous ferry was, but during holiday season it was very difficult to get on board. I haven't used it in a while, but if I remember correctly there was a larger ferry between Korčula and Orebić than between Trpanj and Ploče, weird considering most people going to Korčula were coming from Ploče anyway (one way or another). The new one is huge though.
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Old July 6th, 2013, 07:17 PM   #4679
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I know. But are the bridges also be built now or not? Will you recongnize that there could be an interchange in the future?
I think that at the moment only A1-A10 direction will be built, without future ramps for further south direction... No one really knows the exact plans, because construction is still going on, so it's not possible to see the final shape of the Metković interchange...
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Old July 7th, 2013, 12:03 AM   #4680
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I know. But are the bridges also be built now or not? Will you recongnize that there could be an interchange in the future?
From this picture from facebook it looks underpass/overpass A1/A10 is U/C

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...type=1&theater





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I have no clue what the capacity of the previous ferry was, ...
Before 70 cars
Now 138
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