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Old June 29th, 2015, 03:56 PM   #5801
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Old July 1st, 2015, 10:18 PM   #5802
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the people who are checking passports are usually called police.
Yes, of course. My bad!

That still doesn't change anything haha :P
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Old July 1st, 2015, 10:45 PM   #5803
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The waiting times for the borders to Hungary just show 0 in the link. Any other good website for checking ? Thanks.
you will really hardly find something else except 0 appearing at section H-HR borders the only thing that could happen is maybe 15-20 min waiting at Letenye/Goričan in peak summer weekends.
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Old July 2nd, 2015, 02:14 AM   #5804
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you will really hardly find something else except 0 appearing at section H-HR borders the only thing that could happen is maybe 15-20 min waiting at Letenye/Goričan in peak summer weekends.
Meanwhile being stuck for hours at HR-non EU crossings is normal in summer

I remember a monumental queue last summer at Karasovici/Vitaljina - I was coming from the MNE direction with a queue of around 30 seconds, but the border police told me at Vitaljina that the queue was already 4-5 hours at Karasovici and at least 3 hours so far at Vitaljina.
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Old July 2nd, 2015, 08:33 AM   #5805
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Old July 16th, 2015, 12:36 PM   #5806
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Latest design of Peljesac bridge was presented yesterday, with acces roads.
Two lanes, with emergency lanes, lenght 2402m, 55m hight over sea level.
Acces roads including new road on Peljesac peninsula will be also two lane road.
Bridge cost about 200 mil €, total cost with roads 380 mil €.









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Old July 16th, 2015, 12:56 PM   #5807
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Does this bridge design allow later expansion to 2+2? It looks almost wide enough.

Also are there any plans for bridges across bays of Slano and Zaton that would make access over D8 to Dubrovnik considerably faster?

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Old July 16th, 2015, 12:56 PM   #5808
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They should have planned it with four lanes, in order to be suitable to carry the future A1 motorway between Ploce and Dubrovnik.
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Old July 16th, 2015, 01:08 PM   #5809
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There won't be any motorway here.
And frankly speaking I think it is not needed, traffic is not that high, also transit should go above Dubrovnik through BiH. What Dubrovnik needs in my opinion is a quality connection with the rest of Croatia and that could be done with a two lane road and designed speed limit of at least 80 km/h all the way.
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Old July 16th, 2015, 01:31 PM   #5810
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Does this bridge design allow later expansion to 2+2? It looks almost wide enough.

Also are there any plans for bridges across bays of Slano and Zaton that would make access over D8 to Dubrovnik considerably faster?
I dont think so couse during presentation it was said it will be two lane with emergency ( narrow) lanes.

There are no such plans, i think it it becouse their trying to preserve those two bays .
Instead there is a plan for motorway/expressway or another road more inland, near the border.
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Old July 16th, 2015, 02:01 PM   #5811
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I think both bays would be better preserved with bridges. Now all traffic runs right through middle of both towns and right beside beaches.
And realistically, I don't see any possibility of an expressway or motorway in foreseeable future if there is an international plan to build a transit motorway just 10-15 km north of it even if it is in another country. Even in high peak summer weekends it doesn't look to be enough traffic on D8 to justify a 2+2 expressway.
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Old July 21st, 2015, 05:29 PM   #5812
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a little OT: is it legal to have dashcam on when crossing the HR border? I've read somewhere that it is illegal. I would like to record my journey through HU and HR
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Old July 21st, 2015, 08:09 PM   #5813
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There won't be any motorway here.
And frankly speaking I think it is not needed, traffic is not that high, also transit should go above Dubrovnik through BiH. What Dubrovnik needs in my opinion is a quality connection with the rest of Croatia and that could be done with a two lane road and designed speed limit of at least 80 km/h all the way.
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I think both bays would be better preserved with bridges. Now all traffic runs right through middle of both towns and right beside beaches.
And realistically, I don't see any possibility of an expressway or motorway in foreseeable future if there is an international plan to build a transit motorway just 10-15 km north of it even if it is in another country. Even in high peak summer weekends it doesn't look to be enough traffic on D8 to justify a 2+2 expressway.
And the long-awaited plan for the Adriatic-Jonian motorway between Italy and Greece?
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Old July 21st, 2015, 09:02 PM   #5814
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And the long-awaited plan for the Adriatic-Jonian motorway between Italy and Greece?
And where is albania then? Not earlier than 2030
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Old July 22nd, 2015, 12:22 AM   #5815
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I think both bays would be better preserved with bridges. Now all traffic runs right through middle of both towns and right beside beaches.
And realistically, I don't see any possibility of an expressway or motorway in foreseeable future if there is an international plan to build a transit motorway just 10-15 km north of it even if it is in another country. Even in high peak summer weekends it doesn't look to be enough traffic on D8 to justify a 2+2 expressway.
What international plan? There's just a bold imagination of JP Autoceste FBiH to build the Adriatic-Ionian motorway through BiH. Too bad that the area north of Dubrovnik where the motorway could be built belongs to Republika Srpska and not the Federation. And more worse: Republika Srpska has no plan for a motorway there...

Oh, and don't forget that BiH is more or less bankrupt and they don't have money to built the important motorways and expressways (e.g. A1, motorway to Zenica - Tuzla, motoway Dobolj - Brcko and so on) so where should the money come from to build a motorway there. That plan is just a figment...
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Old July 22nd, 2015, 01:04 AM   #5816
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Oh, and don't forget that BiH is more or less bankrupt and they don't have money to built the important motorways and expressways (e.g. A1, motorway to Zenica - Tuzla, motoway Dobolj - Brcko and so on) so where should the money come from to build a motorway there. That plan is just a figment...
Zenica and Tuzla are not in Republika Srpska And there is no plan that motorway between these two towns will be ever built. Doboj - Odžak (and not Brčko as you wrote) is planned and will be built eventually. Maybe/probably as a PPP...
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Zenica and Tuzla are not in Republika Srpska
I did not claim that! I speak of BiH as whole.

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If it will ever be built is another story...

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Doboj - Odžak (and not Brčko as you wrote) is planned and will be built eventually. Maybe/probably as a PPP...
I didn't speak about A1 / corridor V in that case (as I mentioned it before) but about the west-east motorway towards Serbia. But you're right, JP Autoputevi Republike Srpske plans to avoid Brcko but build the motorway south of Brcko... Too bad that this territory of the Federation... I mixed that up with planned Tuzla-Brcko (-Orasje) of JP Autocesta FBiH...

But I have to correct myself, JP Autoputevi Republike Srpske really plans a connection north of Dubrovnik. But as expressway ("Brzi put", the english legend is wrong) not as motorway. But that don't change much: There's no money for it.

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Old July 22nd, 2015, 12:22 PM   #5818
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JP Autoputevi Republike Srpske plans to avoid Brcko but build the motorway south of Brcko... Too bad that this territory of the Federation...
You have mixed up everything. RS doesn't plan to build motorway around Brcko trough federation territory, but Brcko district is planing to do that, through Brcko district territory.
And that map is outdated.
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What international plan? There's just a bold imagination of JP Autoceste FBiH to build the Adriatic-Ionian motorway through BiH. Too bad that the area north of Dubrovnik where the motorway could be built belongs to Republika Srpska and not the Federation. And more worse: Republika Srpska has no plan for a motorway there...
but they have plan to build an international airport there
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You have mixed up everything. RS doesn't plan to build motorway around Brcko trough federation territory, but Brcko district is planing to do that, through Brcko district territory.
Pardon? Look at the maps above... It's not a secret that the plans of both entities doesn't match each other.

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And that map is outdated.
It's the one posted on the website of JP Autoputevi Republike Srpske. If there are other plans, don't blame me, blame JP Autoputevi Republike Srpske for outdated informations. But I guess there's even no money for updating documents...
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