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Old July 22nd, 2015, 02:21 PM   #5821
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but they have plan to build an international airport there
If it will be one where low cost flights land, I'm waiting for it
Perfect airport for visiting Dubrovnik area
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Old July 22nd, 2015, 02:32 PM   #5822
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Pardon? Look at the maps above... It's not a secret that the plans of both entities doesn't match each other.
I dont have to look at the wrong maps.

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It's the one posted on the website of JP Autoputevi Republike Srpske. If there are other plans, don't blame me, blame JP Autoputevi Republike Srpske for outdated informations. But I guess there's even no money for updating documents...
I don't have to blame anyone, I am just telling you the truth so that you know as well. Yes there is no money to update map, satisfied?
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Old July 22nd, 2015, 02:34 PM   #5823
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It's the one posted on the website of JP Autoputevi Republike Srpske. If there are other plans, don't blame me, blame JP Autoputevi Republike Srpske for outdated informations. But I guess there's even no money for updating documents...
Now it's pretty obvious that this guy is trolling, besides that he doesn't have a clue what he is talking about
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Old July 22nd, 2015, 02:46 PM   #5824
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I dont have to look at the wrong maps.


I don't have to blame anyone, I am just telling you the truth so that you know as well. Yes there is no money to update map, satisfied?
What a bias
You may want to take a more friendly approach to others. I see you mouthing off everyone all the time. You don't make friends that way and cause people to lose interest in these threads you post in.
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Old July 22nd, 2015, 03:57 PM   #5825
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I think you quoted wrong person, because I have explained to this guy that the maps are wrong and that what is he saying is not true. And he replays me in cynic way and you are warning me?

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Old July 22nd, 2015, 10:19 PM   #5826
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I'm not saying that it's not true that there are other maps, I just said that those are the official maps of both JP FBiH and JP Autoputevi Republike Srpske. There are no other maps on their websites. I can't look on other maps than the official ones...

Look by yourselves:
http://www.autoputevirs.com/aprs/Doc...ir&id=206&br=0
http://jpautoceste.gmapa.ba/20110308...voja-autocesta

And about the financial situation in BiH:
http://www.bosniatoday.ba/no-money-f...-cut-spending/

It's no secret hat BiH lacks money for infrastructure projects... It's the same e.g. in Croatia and Montenegro. And not my fault. I wish there would be another situation...
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Old July 23rd, 2015, 02:12 AM   #5827
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you wouldn't wish that, but that is not the topic. The fact is the map from site autoputevirs is not precise and not relevant. For someone who is so in motorway construction you are quite ignorant.
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Old July 23rd, 2015, 12:23 PM   #5828
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Then, would you please be so kind and give us other informations?
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Old July 23rd, 2015, 12:25 PM   #5829
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yes
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Old July 23rd, 2015, 01:33 PM   #5830
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A bit more "official" informations, e.g. a map or press article would be a little bit more hmm reliable...
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Old July 23rd, 2015, 01:57 PM   #5831
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Brčko bypass is not part of Doboj-Bijeljina highway, it's just a regular state road (magistralni put)
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Old July 23rd, 2015, 02:14 PM   #5833
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it is, but in the 1st phase it will be half-profile with roundabouts, second phase will be upgrading it to full profile.




Blue doted line (below red one) is normal highway, red line is motorway, part of Vukoslavlje-Bijeljina motorway.
here is the link for the detailed map

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7045/6...5c5f26c5_o.jpg
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Old July 26th, 2015, 01:54 PM   #5834
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Thanks for the links. So, it seems they have corrected the alignment there. Okay, however, I hope everyone who looks at the maps realizes that there are many more much more important motorways and expressways planned in BiH that an unimportant motorway (for BiH!) between Metkovic and Trebinje (or border to MNE).

And looking how long it takes to build just a bypass for a city, you can imagine how long it would take that there would really be built a motorway there...
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Old July 26th, 2015, 02:40 PM   #5835
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that mtwy only makes sense if it is part of bigger project, alone without mwy in MNE, HR, AL and GRE is useless.
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that mtwy only makes sense if it is part of bigger project, alone without mwy in MNE, HR, AL and GRE is useless.
Yes, it would be a very important project for SE Europe. Currently there are more than 1,100 km virtually without motorways between Ploce (HR) and Kalamata (GR).
https://www.google.it/maps/dir/Plo%C...7!2d37.0737783
It would also benefit tourism to Greece, as it will make feasible to drive from Trieste to Igoumenitsa in a day.
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that mtwy only makes sense if it is part of bigger project, alone without mwy in MNE, HR, AL and GRE is useless.
Yes, of course. However, the biggest gap today is Montenegro. Without a proper connection on the other side of the border, a motorway or expressway from Metkovic to Trebinje is just a waste of money.

BTW, in Greece the A5 in Greece from Patras to Ioaninna is under construction and will be read in the next years. The missing gap to the border is not that big. And in Albania you have at least some level of expressway or a good and wide national road on about 90% of the whole stretch. So this two countries aren't really a problem and traffic is low at moment. Albania could expand most parts to 2x2 easily.

But Montenegro is a problem. They are currently building the first part of their north-south motorway. It will take several years to finish and before that, constructing a new motorway is impossible - if it won't be financed by EU. I don't expect beginning of constructing an east-west motorway in Montenegro before 2025.

In my opinion, Croatia will built an expressway from Doli to Dubrovnik Airport if the bridge is financed by EU. And that will be before 2025.
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It would also benefit tourism to Greece, as it will make feasible to drive from Trieste to Igoumenitsa in a day.
That's already possible, it takes about 20 hours with breakes. Either about 1500 km on motorways/expressways though Serbia or about 1250 km through Montenegro. However, a complete motorway or expressway would be much better. At least it's urgent to make something in Montenegro. It's a mess there
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That's already possible, it takes about 20 hours with breakes. Either about 1500 km on motorways/expressways though Serbia or about 1250 km through Montenegro. However, a complete motorway or expressway would be much better. At least it's urgent to make something in Montenegro. It's a mess there
Driving 20 hours in a day is very difficult, and also dangerous if you're the only driver. With the Adriatic-Ionian motorway complete (including Divaca-Jelsane in SLO and A7 all the way to A1 in HR), it will probably take around 12 hours.
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Old July 26th, 2015, 11:52 PM   #5840
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Yes, of course. However, the biggest gap today is Montenegro. Without a proper connection on the other side of the border, a motorway or expressway from Metkovic to Trebinje is just a waste of money.

BTW, in Greece the A5 in Greece from Patras to Ioaninna is under construction and will be read in the next years. The missing gap to the border is not that big. And in Albania you have at least some level of expressway or a good and wide national road on about 90% of the whole stretch. So this two countries aren't really a problem and traffic is low at moment. Albania could expand most parts to 2x2 easily.

But Montenegro is a problem. They are currently building the first part of their north-south motorway. It will take several years to finish and before that, constructing a new motorway is impossible - if it won't be financed by EU. I don't expect beginning of constructing an east-west motorway in Montenegro before 2025.

In my opinion, Croatia will built an expressway from Doli to Dubrovnik Airport if the bridge is financed by EU. And that will be before 2025.
Albanian road connection are normal "magistralas" the same roads you have in MNE and BiH, we are talking about real motorways here.
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