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Nephasto · February 15th, 2007, 11:45 PM

^Is the A1 really being extended in the direction of Dubrovnik until 2008?

How are they going to do to cross that Bosnian bit of country? Is the motorway going through Bosnia, or is that being avoided by building the motorway in that croatian island paralel to the coast?

Another thing... it the A-6 really completed?! Is Rijecta connected to Zagreb by motorway?!
It sure doesn't look like that on www.viamichelin.com... and that map is updated.
Same goes for the A-8 and A-9. Do they really exist as motorways?! Or are they just fast roads?

Nephasto · February 15th, 2007, 11:53 PM

Ok, i've checked on the website and confirmed that A-6, A-8 and A-9 are not motorways, but fast roads (single carrigeways) with no level crossings.

Why are they called A-*, as if they're motorways?

zasina · February 16th, 2007, 12:06 AM

Fantastic photos and motorways!

Bori427 · February 16th, 2007, 12:14 AM

Great motorways,they look a lot like PuertoRican freeways (except these are more clean and with few traffic).

Nephasto · February 16th, 2007, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Bori427

Great motorways,they look a lot like PuertoRican freeways (except these are more clean and with few traffic).

And what does that mean?!

I could equally say that they look alot like portuguese freeways. And like all other freeways in europe.

snupix · February 16th, 2007, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Nephasto

Ok, i've checked on the website and confirmed that A-6, A-8 and A-9 are not motorways, but fast roads (single carrigeways) with no level crossings.

Why are they called A-*, as if they're motorways?

Completion of A6 as a full motorway is in 2008. A8 and A9 are called A* because they're going to be upgraded to a full motorway very soon, so they wanted to avoid confusion with changing the name later... Construction of A8 and A9 second lane is going to start very soon, maybe even this year, I don't know the date...

snupix · February 16th, 2007, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Nephasto

^Is the A1 really being extended in the direction of Dubrovnik until 2008?

How are they going to do to cross that Bosnian bit of country? Is the motorway going through Bosnia, or is that being avoided by building the motorway in that croatian island paralel to the coast?

Yes, they're extending it, first section from Split to Šestanovac is about to open this summer, I'm not sure about the date for the completion all the way to Dubrovnik. But for the Split to Ploče (Bosnian border) section, the year is definitely 2008. There are two ways of crossing Bosnia:

1. A bridge is being built from Croatian land to the Pelješac peninsula to avoid Bosnia

2. There will be the same old road through Bosnia as before, maybe there will be a highway built without exits in Bosnia, but that is still not known.

***ChrisZwolle*** · February 16th, 2007, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Nephasto

Ok, i've checked on the website and confirmed that A-6, A-8 and A-9 are not motorways, but fast roads (single carrigeways) with no level crossings.

Why are they called A-*, as if they're motorways?

I heard they reconstruct them to motorways if enough traffic is there. That doesn't seems to be a problem with tourism in Istria.

snupix · February 16th, 2007, 06:05 PM

x-type · February 16th, 2007, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Nephasto

Why are they called A-*, as if they're motorways?

A6 is called A because it is going to be upgraded to full profile really soon. and it is not full fast road, it has some sections allready built in full motorway profile. so you have sitaution like this: from knot Bosiljevo (A1) there is about 2 km full profile built. then you have fast road till viaduct Hambarište (before exit Vrbovsko). then full profile, and again after tunnel Čardak fast road till toll station Grobnik, where it becomes full profiled again and lasts till entrance to Rijeka. at all - you have about 50 km of fast road and 30 km of motorway.

A8 and A9 actualy are signed as B8 and B9 (i'm not sure for B9, but B8 100%). B means "brza cesta" what means "fast road". those roads are under different concession company, so they decided to sign'em as B roads. all down the way at B8 you have B signs, not A

***ChrisZwolle*** · February 16th, 2007, 09:13 PM

How about that A11 from Zagreb to Sisak? When will it be completed? Will it eventually extend into Bosnia? (Banja Luka or so).

BL · February 17th, 2007, 01:11 PM

there is a plan for A11 extension to BiH, but it has to be done bilateral. Bosnia is building highway from Banja Luka to Prijedor so this highway ought to be extended toward Sisak and Zagreb. Federation of BiH also plans to connect on this highway from Bihac, but this plans are not sure.

BL · February 17th, 2007, 02:31 PM

As for Neum nothing is decided yet. maybe highway toward Dubrovnik will go trough Herzegovina all the way. There are more possibilities.

***ChrisZwolle*** · February 17th, 2007, 03:21 PM

Cheapest will be that they build a motorway through that tiny piece of Bosnia without exits or border crossings.

We had that once on a provincial road in Limburg, The Netherlands, there were a few kilometers through Germany without exit-possibilities.

BL · February 17th, 2007, 03:28 PM

U don´t understand what i wanted to say, there is possibility that the highway would go all the way trough Herzegovina from Ploce or Neum till Dubrovnik and than to Montenegro, with an exit to Dubrovnik. It is much more cheaper and more ecological.
Something like this:

***ChrisZwolle*** · February 17th, 2007, 03:55 PM

How is the terrain on Bosnian side? Similar like around Zadar and Split?

A motorway to Montenegro would be very good for tourism and trade.

snupix · February 17th, 2007, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BL

U don´t understand what i wanted to say, there is possibility that the highway would go all the way trough Herzegovina from Ploce or Neum till Dubrovnik and than to Montenegro, with an exit to Dubrovnik. It is much more cheaper and more ecological.

There is no chance for such a scenario, maybe just last few kilometres will run through Bosnia.

1. Bosnia has no interest in this, there are no bigger Bosnian cities around
2. Croatia will build its own motorway till Dubrovnik, and that's right what we want to avoid - going through Bosnia. That's why we're building the bridge anyway

Verso · February 17th, 2007, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BL

Bosnia and Herzegovinia?

BL · February 17th, 2007, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snupix

There is no chance for such a scenario, maybe just last few kilometres will run through Bosnia.

1. Bosnia has no interest in this, there are no bigger Bosnian cities around
2. Croatia will build its own motorway till Dubrovnik, and that's right what we want to avoid - going through Bosnia. That's why we're building the bridge anyway

I thought u r building bridge coz u don´t want peljesac to be isolated and not for avoiding bosnia?
I have just said that possibility coz the croatian politicians and media talked and reported about that. It would be cheaper at least 2 times.

BL · February 17th, 2007, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris1491

How is the terrain on Bosnian side? Similar like around Zadar and Split?

A motorway to Montenegro would be very good for tourism and trade.

it is flat.

February 15th, 2007, 11:45 PM	#41
Nephasto Enlightened user Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Porto Posts: 5,750 Likes (Received): 31	^Is the A1 really being extended in the direction of Dubrovnik until 2008? How are they going to do to cross that Bosnian bit of country? Is the motorway going through Bosnia, or is that being avoided by building the motorway in that croatian island paralel to the coast? Another thing... it the A-6 really completed?! Is Rijecta connected to Zagreb by motorway?! It sure doesn't look like that on www.viamichelin.com... and that map is updated. Same goes for the A-8 and A-9. Do they really exist as motorways?! Or are they just fast roads? __________________ Long live rail freight!!

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Nephasto Enlightened user Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Porto Posts: 5,750 Likes (Received): 31	Ok, i've checked on the website and confirmed that A-6, A-8 and A-9 are not motorways, but fast roads (single carrigeways) with no level crossings. Why are they called A-, as if they're motorways? __________________ Long live rail freight!!*

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February 16th, 2007, 12:06 AM	#43
zasina Łodzioholik Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Łódź Posts: 1,093 Likes (Received): 4	Fantastic photos and motorways!

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February 16th, 2007, 09:13 PM	#51
*ChrisZwolle* Road user Join Date: May 2006 Location: Zwolle Posts: 28,773 Likes (Received): 450	How about that A11 from Zagreb to Sisak? When will it be completed? Will it eventually extend into Bosnia? (Banja Luka or so).

February 17th, 2007, 01:11 PM	#52
BL BANNED Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Banja Luka Posts: 4,807 Likes (Received): 2	there is a plan for A11 extension to BiH, but it has to be done bilateral. Bosnia is building highway from Banja Luka to Prijedor so this highway ought to be extended toward Sisak and Zagreb. Federation of BiH also plans to connect on this highway from Bihac, but this plans are not sure.

February 17th, 2007, 02:31 PM	#53
BL BANNED Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Banja Luka Posts: 4,807 Likes (Received): 2	As for Neum nothing is decided yet. maybe highway toward Dubrovnik will go trough Herzegovina all the way. There are more possibilities.

February 17th, 2007, 03:21 PM	#54
*ChrisZwolle* Road user Join Date: May 2006 Location: Zwolle Posts: 28,773 Likes (Received): 450	Cheapest will be that they build a motorway through that tiny piece of Bosnia without exits or border crossings. We had that once on a provincial road in Limburg, The Netherlands, there were a few kilometers through Germany without exit-possibilities.

February 17th, 2007, 03:28 PM	#55
BL BANNED Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Banja Luka Posts: 4,807 Likes (Received): 2	U don´t understand what i wanted to say, there is possibility that the highway would go all the way trough Herzegovina from Ploce or Neum till Dubrovnik and than to Montenegro, with an exit to Dubrovnik. It is much more cheaper and more ecological. Something like this:

February 17th, 2007, 03:55 PM	#56
*ChrisZwolle* Road user Join Date: May 2006 Location: Zwolle Posts: 28,773 Likes (Received): 450	How is the terrain on Bosnian side? Similar like around Zadar and Split? A motorway to Montenegro would be very good for tourism and trade.