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Old June 24th, 2016, 12:35 AM   #6121
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Is this an official plan?
There are currently no official plans to continue building motorway in Croatia.

So yes, this is the official plan as far as Croatia is concerned.
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Old June 24th, 2016, 11:06 AM   #6122
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This is not a reservation, but a side lane. If lanes are 3,50 then the side lane needs to be at least 50 cm.
Croatian regulations state clearly that motorway with two lanes can have lane width 2x3,25 in one direction without emergency lane on long bridge if the speed limit is 80 km/h.
http://narodne-novine.nn.hr/clanci/s..._110_1829.html
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Old June 24th, 2016, 04:29 PM   #6123
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This road will be only a modern reroute of D8 coastal road 100% on Croatian soil.

The Adriatic-Ionian motorway is leaving Croatia at Metković and going through BiH to Montenegro. Case closed. Croatian nature and landscapes mostly intact. Everybody wins.
You mean the expressway so to say through Peljesac peninsula will only serve the local traffic to Dubrovnik and that the planned motorway going to Greece will leave Croatia at Metkovic? I am not sure that EU will be willing to fund another parallel, near route through BiH when the time comes for it, not making use of the already existing then stretch to Dubrovnik.
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Old June 24th, 2016, 05:53 PM   #6124
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There is now way that this motorway in BiH is build in the next 15 to 20 years. There's no money in BiH (and no will). Dubrovnik has to be connected somehow, if with an expressway or a motorway doesn't matter.
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Old June 24th, 2016, 09:43 PM   #6125
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You mean the expressway so to say through Peljesac peninsula will only serve the local traffic to Dubrovnik and that the planned motorway going to Greece will leave Croatia at Metkovic? I am not sure that EU will be willing to fund another parallel, near route through BiH when the time comes for it, not making use of the already existing then stretch to Dubrovnik.
By the time a motorway will be needed, BiH will probably be in EU. Or EU wont exist anymore...

Dubrovnik will be connected with D8 and Pelješac bypass. It's a fine road, more than enough for current and expected traffic.
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Old June 25th, 2016, 06:09 PM   #6126
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Looks to me there will be an intersection here:
https://www.google.sk/maps/place/43%...89!4d17.495987

and the continuation wil be towards Bih Neum and Dubrovnik?
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Old June 25th, 2016, 10:18 PM   #6127
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Looks to me there will be an intersection here:
https://www.google.sk/maps/place/43%...89!4d17.495987

and the continuation wil be towards Bih Neum and Dubrovnik?
This is the start of a planned 2-lane expressway connection to Pelješac bridge.

Supposed A1 continuation is planned much further inland, just before Metković border crossing. It's not visible on GMaps. And it's planned as a TOTSO, main direction is from/towards BiH. That should give you an idea if this continuation will ever be constructed or not...
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Old July 2nd, 2016, 09:23 PM   #6128
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Dear colleagues

I found such information as below
Could you explain why quotes in EURO are so low ?
I know it was a couple of years ago but still.
I`m asking as they signed contract for S7 expressway
in Poland on the route to Zakopane and 2x2 tunnel - 2 kilometres
will cost almost 1 billion zloty



Work started in August three months behind schedule on the 5,860 m-long Mala Kapela tunnel awarded to Coop Costruttori for €34.7 million.

Strabag has signed a contract for the construction of the Brinje tunnel consisting of two parallel tubes, each totalling 1,560 metres. The contract value is €25.45 million.

Croatian contractor Hidroelektra Niskogradnja and Czech contractor Subterra started excavation of the 2 x 2,290 m-long Plasina tunnel in November on motorway section Bosiljevo-Sveti Rok, part of the Zagreb-Split motorway. The project is worth €32 million.
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Old July 2nd, 2016, 10:57 PM   #6129
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is it Strabag who is going to build that tunnel?
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Old July 3rd, 2016, 01:30 AM   #6130
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is it Strabag who is going to build that tunnel?
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Old July 16th, 2016, 12:41 PM   #6131
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Stormy weather has closed A1 in the Split area. Apparently it reopened to passenger cars at 10:40 a.m., but there is an incredible 41 kilometer traffic jam on A1 southbound near Sveti Rok Tunnel.
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Old July 16th, 2016, 02:17 PM   #6132
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More likely Zadar area...
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Old July 16th, 2016, 02:19 PM   #6133
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It was Sveti Rok - Maslenica (exit 14-15) to be exact, yes.
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Old July 16th, 2016, 02:50 PM   #6134
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41 km jam is between Perušić and Sveti Rok because Sveti Rok was the last accessible exit to direction south up to 10h40.

Sveti Rok - Maslenica is more or less clear because it was closed for traffic.



notice that Google Traffic obviously doesn't work in tunnels (there is no sense that in the tunnel itself it would be green, while all around is orange and red).
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Old July 16th, 2016, 05:18 PM   #6135
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What on earth is going on in Croatia today?

From HAK, the Croatian Automobile Club:

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Since the weather conditions are not favourable and the traffic is extremely dense across the country, we strongly advise you to postpone your journey if you can.
If you do choose to travel today, be prepared for your journey, bring enough food and water with you, be as patient as you can and drive carefully.

The section of the A1 Zagreb- Split between Sveti Rok and Posedarje is open only for cars in both directions, but there is still a 50 km long queue at the Sveti Rok junction.
Due to strong wind the Pag bridge and the section of the state road between Maslenica and Zaton Obrovački are still closed for all traffic.
Are weather conditions completely abnormal, or what?

Having said that, I don't understand why people are driving into the queue. If you listen to the updates on Croatian radio, they're in English every hour and they're usually very accurate. I get that the old Maslenica bridge is closed, but you can take the road from Karlovac-Veilka Kladusa-Bihac-Bosanski Petrovac-Bosanski Grahovo-Knin-Split - mostly a decent road, especially after Bihac.
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Old July 16th, 2016, 05:38 PM   #6136
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Another option is to take A3 instead and then through Banja Luka and Livno.
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Old July 16th, 2016, 05:39 PM   #6137
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50 kilometers, is that the longest traffic jam ever in Croatia?
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Old July 16th, 2016, 05:48 PM   #6138
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50 kilometers, is that the longest traffic jam ever in Croatia?
Apparently it's still growing, and there's a possibility of the bora coming back.

I don't think I've ever seen anyone advising drivers to take food and drinks in the middle of summer before!

But I think in this case, they should have closed the A1 at Zagreb and let traffic head off in different directions, rather than continuing to send them straight into the jam.

There's also a 10 kilometre jam in front of the Mala Kapela tunnel, which means over 60km of jams on the A1 between the A6 junction and Zadar.

I suppose the biggest problem here is that Croatia only has around 6 weekends (at the most) of this madness, so they can't really justify building alternative routes and so on. Hopefully the A1 in BiH and the motorway to Banja Luka will go a long way to providing a reasonable alternative route on these crazy summer weekends.

It would also have made a lot of sense to make the road from Gradac to Maslenica one way only in the direction of the coast today, just to provide some relief for the A1 and Sveti Rok tunnel.

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Old July 16th, 2016, 05:53 PM   #6139
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Apparently it's still growing, and there's a possibility of the bora coming back.
It's 'rolling back', but the length is now around 35kms according to Google Maps data.

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There's also a 10 kilometre jam in front of the Mala Kapela tunnel,
Nope, other direction.
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Are weather conditions completely abnormal, or what?
yes. rare weather condition happened that we have such bad weather during the one of strongest summer weekends. i don't remember when the A1 was closed because of wind in july.

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50 kilometers, is that the longest traffic jam ever in Croatia?
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There's also a 10 kilometre jam in front of the Mala Kapela tunnel, which means over 60km of jams on the A1 between the A6 junction and Zadar.
that on Mala Kapela was traffic accident,.
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