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Old September 7th, 2008, 11:34 AM   #1021
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i don't know anything about widening yet. they've been talking something about it, i guess from next year if i remember well, but i doubt. my guess that first widened section will be at B9 from Pula to Kanfanar (knot with B8). those plans about widening are in longer terms, especially B8 which has a lots of viaducts and tunnel Učka, and there should be completely new section from tunnel Učka to knot Matulji (with A7) which goes more northern from existing.

tunnel under Sljeme - mayor Bandić has to get green light for that project, so he must approve it's profitability.
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Old September 7th, 2008, 01:03 PM   #1022
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tunnel under Sljeme - mayor Bandić has to get green light for that project, so he must approve it's profitability.
Whit kind of tunnel will be (railway, road, motorway) and from Zagreb to where (Stubičke)??? And I think, that if they build this tunnel they will have to construct new road in Zagreb but I don't know how because there is no space...?
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Old September 7th, 2008, 02:02 PM   #1023
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i don't know much about that project so i don't like to talk about it. but, yes, 100% entrance at the opposite side should be somewhere near Donja Stubica.
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Old September 8th, 2008, 09:31 AM   #1024
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Whit kind of tunnel will be (railway, road, motorway) and from Zagreb to where (Stubičke)??? And I think, that if they build this tunnel they will have to construct new road in Zagreb but I don't know how because there is no space...?
actually it is a pretty good idea... but i'd say nothing will happen for years...
first... north side of Zagreb doesn't have speedroads or 2-lane roads of any kind... meaning they have to build one so that tunnel can lead to something... (some plans talking about northern bypass, now just an distant dream)
one main road leading to north side of Zagreb is actually 1+2 lane road which shares two lanes with tramway... so currently that road is pretty congested for most part of the day... and there is very little space for widening that road...
as far as i know, other exit should be at Kraljev Vrh, somewhat left of Stubicke, around 10-20km... but seems that people on other side, doesn't want changing their rural landscape into something urban... so that's another problem...
and ofcourse, main thing is money... Zagreb won't have that amount of money for that kind of project... and it wouldn't solve much of traffic, it would only make more congestion in north part of town...

maybe that northern bypass will come true one day...
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Old September 9th, 2008, 01:00 AM   #1025
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Old September 9th, 2008, 09:24 AM   #1026
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That'll be another section of beautiful motorway in Croatia
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Old September 9th, 2008, 08:47 PM   #1027
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Old September 16th, 2008, 03:28 PM   #1028
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They do not call it motorway but expressway ( gyorsforgalmi út or autóút).
M is a sign for a faster way than a major road!!!
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Old September 16th, 2008, 05:23 PM   #1029
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Do You know how Croatian authorities are planning to fix the problem with Neum - the BiH short (few kilometers) part of coast in the south?

the motorway is going to cross the Bosnia or Herzegovina territory? ...or it is going to bypass it by neighbouring islands?

the second option seems to be damaging for environment
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Old September 16th, 2008, 05:24 PM   #1030
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I have been to Zagreb last weekend and, of course, made some pictures. Please see this thread for my album with more pics of Zagreb. I'll post some traffic-related pics here:



















































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Old September 17th, 2008, 10:02 AM   #1031
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Do You know how Croatian authorities are planning to fix the problem with Neum - the BiH short (few kilometers) part of coast in the south?

the motorway is going to cross the Bosnia or Herzegovina territory? ...or it is going to bypass it by neighbouring islands?

the second option seems to be damaging for environment
they are planning to build Peljesac bridge... IMO one of the stupidest solutions ever made by our politicians... i don't know how much will it cost, but it will bring us down in red...
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Old September 17th, 2008, 01:04 PM   #1032
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they are planning to build Peljesac bridge... IMO one of the stupidest solutions ever made by our politicians... i don't know how much will it cost, but it will bring us down in red...
Bulshit. Some vital projects just don't have price. With that bridge our country will finally be connected and we won't depend on BiH and their blackmailing policy ever again. So for that bridge no matter how much it costs.

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Old September 17th, 2008, 05:10 PM   #1033
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Bulshit. Some vital projects just don't have price. With that bridge our country will finally be connected and we won't depend on BiH and their blackmailing policy ever again. So for that bridge no matter how much it costs.
we could connect it without any problems without bridge if we would have skilful government. but they are just using less resistance way to do some things, instead of showing some skills that normal government should have. and that less resistance way is expensive. very expensive.
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we could connect it without any problems without bridge if we would have skilful government. but they are just using less resistance way to do some things, instead of showing some skills that normal government should have. and that less resistance way is expensive. very expensive.
Other side didn't want such option. As far as i've read only way they would allow Croatia to connect itself trough BiH is if highway would go trough Hercegovina all the way down to Dubrovnik. And that isn't and can't be option. And most important part.. that highway would go trough other country... politics is a biatch.. who knows what could happen in future there and that part would ALWAYS be used when our and theirs gov would argue. Its better this way.
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we could connect it without any problems without bridge if we would have skilful government. but they are just using less resistance way to do some things, instead of showing some skills that normal government should have. and that less resistance way is expensive. very expensive.
That way needs a skilful goverment in B&H as well, which I somehow find impossible to expect
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ok, but our incapable government agreed with that as it was the only soution. they didn't do their best to try to make BIH to allow us to make a coridor under our terms. actually, maybe they have done their best, but that only shows their huge incapacity.
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Look on the bright side... At least we'll have a nice bridge
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Other side didn't want such option. As far as i've read only way they would allow Croatia to connect itself trough BiH is if highway would go trough Hercegovina all the way down to Dubrovnik. And that isn't and can't be option. And most important part.. that highway would go trough other country... politics is a biatch.. who knows what could happen in future there and that part would ALWAYS be used when our and theirs gov would argue. Its better this way.
I think in Austria is a similar case,where A1 and A12 is connected via Germany...
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I think in Austria is a similar case,where A1 and A12 is connected via Germany...
Yes but Austria had to negotiate with flexible partners. We had to negotiate with side that was crying because we are building bridge on our own soil and because of which that bridge will be 55m tall even tho biggest ship that can enter Neum bay doesn't even come close to that (even half of that height would be too much).
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Germany and B&H could never be compared, in any way
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