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Old November 18th, 2008, 05:17 PM   #1261
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The A3 seems quite boring to me compared to the A1!
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Old November 18th, 2008, 05:21 PM   #1262
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You can't have a spectacular coast in the inlands, Chris
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Old November 18th, 2008, 05:34 PM   #1263
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The A3 seems quite boring to me compared to the A1!
and A1 is boring comparing to A6 actually. i told you sooner that A3 has only 1 larger bridge across river Sava at Zagreb bypass long 1060 m (and nothing special actually) and it has one smaller viaduct across railroad near Novska (less than 200 m long). other things are just overpasses and small bridges across small rivers or streams. ok, intersection with A5 is really nice (also with A1, A2 and A4 at ZG bypass), but that's not actually nothing special i have also heard that A3 has some "artificial" made curves just to break monotony, and really it mostly consists of large curves with huge radius.
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Old November 18th, 2008, 05:49 PM   #1264
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We call that "Polderblindness" in the Netherlands. Long straight roads with monotonous landscape causing people to fall asleep or not really paying attention anymore, staring in the distance without really noticing traffic anymore. Can cause head-on collisions.
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Old November 18th, 2008, 06:05 PM   #1265
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We call that "Polderblindness" in the Netherlands. Long straight roads with monotonous landscape causing people to fall asleep or not really paying attention anymore, staring in the distance without really noticing traffic anymore. Can cause head-on collisions.
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There are warnings to warn drivers to stop often enough and to stop when feeling tired.
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Old November 18th, 2008, 06:16 PM   #1266
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omg, this is a copy of A3!
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Old November 18th, 2008, 06:17 PM   #1267
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Nope: different crashbarriers

This is the A7 in the North-Holland province, the Netherlands
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Old November 18th, 2008, 06:30 PM   #1268
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ok, i'm not Radi, so **** the crashbarriers
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Old November 18th, 2008, 06:43 PM   #1269
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Old November 18th, 2008, 07:37 PM   #1270
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Old November 18th, 2008, 07:50 PM   #1271
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Wow that's pretty serious. In my opinion, the contractor is 100% responsible for this accident. This should never happened, if they want to do stuff that low, they should 1) close the entire Autocesta or close at least the right lane too and let traffic flow across the shoulder.
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Old November 18th, 2008, 08:19 PM   #1272
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of course they are responsible! working area was not insured properly. but it's an old story allready, i think that tunnel Mala Kapela wasn't opened yet when it happened, or it was opened freshly. interesting how media didn't pay too much attention on that accident (And they simply love things like that). i saw it for the first time at youtube, not at tv
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Old November 18th, 2008, 09:37 PM   #1273
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Well A3 used to be most important axe in Yugoslavia When I saw first time pics from bridge across Sava in Zagreb, I though that their motorways must be really shit I hope they put some new asphalt there
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Old November 18th, 2008, 11:16 PM   #1274
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they have that was the last crappy part on HR motorways. and it was rally crappy. i remember that 1,5 years ago i wanted to take photos of it, and when i came there, construction site was allready opened, so i couldn't make photos for history. geeez, it was really bumpy bridge!
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Old November 19th, 2008, 12:01 PM   #1275
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The A3 was only a very busy 2-lane road (roadnr. 1) in the Yugoslav days, the "Autoput Bratstvo i Jedinstvo" (motorway of brotherhood and unity). I remember the road as dangerous, very many accidents happened there. Fortunately the situation is much better now.
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Old November 19th, 2008, 12:41 PM   #1276
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Not true
The section between Zagreb and Sl. Brod existed in YU
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Old November 19th, 2008, 03:56 PM   #1277
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You are right about that. But I can even remember that even there was no motorway
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Old November 19th, 2008, 04:36 PM   #1278
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So how old are you 60
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Old November 19th, 2008, 05:59 PM   #1279
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true, first larger section of full profile at A3 was opened ages ago, in 1980.
here is revuew of opening dates if somebody's interested:

1979 - Jankomir - Lučko (part of southwestern ZG bypass between todays A2 and A1) 5,85 km
1980 - Ivanja Reka (ZG east) - Lipovljani 76,52 km
1981 - Lučko - Ivanja Reka (rest of ZG bypass then) 22,15 km
1985 - Lipovljani - Okučani (35,82 km)
1986 - Okučani - Prvča (i have never heard for Prvča frankly) 7,50 km
1988 - Prvča - Brodski Stupnik 40,56 km (there was toll barrier in Brodski Stupnik up to 2003)
1989 - Brodski Stupnik - Slavonski Brod west 8,80 km
1991 - Slavonski Brod west - Slavonski Brod east 11,40 km
1996 - Slavonski Brod east - Oprisavci 11,90 km
1999 - Oprisavci - Velika Kopanica 16,90 km (i thought that motorway was ending in Oprisavci much longer period than only 3 years)
2000 - Jankomir - Bregana 13,67 km (ZG - SLO motorway!)
2003 - Velika Kopanica - Županja 25,95 km
2006 - Županja - Bajakovo 30,42 km

i must add that completely motorway (except the newest sections built after 1999) passed detailed reconstruction between 2001 and 2006 (or something like that) because it was ruined and not maintained since 1990. it was in really bad condition, you could easily see traces of tanks and grenades' holes
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