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Old December 3rd, 2008, 11:15 PM   #1361
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due to some soul curators, i am deeply appologizing and begging our prime minister and police not to arrest me because i am regreting for what i have written

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Old December 3rd, 2008, 11:36 PM   #1362
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we are turning into China. no no, we are turning into Turkmenistan! or Saudi Arabia! internet will be banned here!
See you in some more democratic times. Now I'll have to take photos of Croatian motorways.


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Old December 3rd, 2008, 11:54 PM   #1363
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we are turning into China. no no, we are turning into Turkmenistan! or Saudi Arabia! internet will be banned here!
Internet will not be banned in croatia, neither the facebook. So please stop bashing Croatia here and lie! Please! You can try to be funny in this way in skybar or DLM but in this subsection there should be serious discoussions. Someone could misinterpret your jokes!
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Old December 4th, 2008, 02:47 PM   #1364
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Good post, Zabonz
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Old December 4th, 2008, 05:59 PM   #1365
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So, how did the demonstrations go?
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Old December 4th, 2008, 06:04 PM   #1366
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Beautiful motorways
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Old December 5th, 2008, 05:31 PM   #1367
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A9 - Istrian Y (Kanfanar - Pula)

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Old December 5th, 2008, 06:38 PM   #1368
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Anyone know what the speed limit will be on extended Istrian Y? I am asking because some modern Croatian motorways have low speed limits.
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Old December 5th, 2008, 07:39 PM   #1369
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130. low speed limits are only at mountainous sections (110 km/h) and 80 km/h at large descents at A1 (between tunnel Sveti Rok and Maslenica where difference is about 500 m in some 15 km) and at A6 (approaching Rijeka where difference is about 200 m in 4 km)
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Old December 5th, 2008, 08:03 PM   #1370
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Whenever I drove from Karlovac to Bosiljevo there were always 100 km/h speed limit although the road was empty. The road is good enough for 130.

I remember that at first even A2 from Zaprešič to Zagreb had 110 km/h limit.
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Old December 5th, 2008, 08:35 PM   #1371
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Whenever I drove from Karlovac to Bosiljevo there were always 100 km/h speed limit although the road was empty. The road is good enough for 130.

I remember that at first even A2 from Zaprešič to Zagreb had 110 km/h limit.
I don't understand that either, but I guess it's because of the gradient. Nowhere from Bosiljevo (A1-A6 jcn) to Rijeka speed limit exceeds 110 km/h.
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Old December 5th, 2008, 08:38 PM   #1372
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@pijanec: you are wrong. you have 100 km/h for 2,5 km after Karlovac at viaduct Drežnik, 2-3 km near tunnel Sveti Marko (tunnel + couple of viaducts) and in knot Bosiljevo. other is 130. at A6 you mostly have 110 speed limit because it is mountanious.
A2 has 110 km/h also at montanious part between Krapina and Trakošćan (and it has 100 km/h limits in all exits)
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Old December 6th, 2008, 11:57 AM   #1373
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Istrian "Y" being extended? How long is it going to take?
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Old December 6th, 2008, 03:20 PM   #1374
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several years. they are beginning from Pula to north. probably B9 will become A9 sooner than B8 A8. construction is divided into 2 phases - 2A and 2B (phase 1 was construction of expressway).
phase 2A: 27,6 km of A9 (Pula - Kanfanar (knot with B8)), 49,2 km Kanfanar - Umag (except viaducts Limska Draga and Mirna) and 18 km of A8 Kanfanar - Rogovići (Pazin south). also, in this phase Pula will get better new bypass, new 1,5 km long road will be built from exit Umag to border crossings Kaštel and Plovanija and B8 will get 3rd lane in whole lenght from Matulji (Rijeka) to tunnel Učka (it currently exists at only 2 km before tunnel).
phase 2B: Rogovići (Pazin) - tunnel Učka - Matulji (Rijeka) with second tube of tunnel Učka, parallel viaducts Mirna and Limska Draga.

so, that's official plan.
phase 2B:
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Old December 6th, 2008, 04:28 PM   #1375
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so no 2nd viaduct of Mirna on the way..? Is 2nd Učka really needed?
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Old December 6th, 2008, 04:42 PM   #1376
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From 2019 all longer tunnels in EU (more than 1 km length) will need some sort of evacuation sytem, be it as service tube or another traffic tube. Učka has neither and will need one of these.
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Old December 6th, 2008, 05:19 PM   #1377
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so no 2nd viaduct of Mirna on the way..? Is 2nd Učka really needed?
personally i'm worried about the speed of upgrading construction and 2013 seems optimistic to me. maybe this phase 2A will be completed up to 2013.
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Old December 6th, 2008, 05:24 PM   #1378
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Luckily, the planners were clever enough and prepared the road for extension.. otherwise it would take much longer. They've just started, right? I had not seen any activities over there in August...
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Old December 6th, 2008, 05:32 PM   #1379
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so, that's official plan.
thats very wise.
expensive objects are on the end of the schedule...

unfortunately we are not so wise, we are building too large capacites for low traffic volumes (full profile danube bridge at dunaújváros for 6.000 AADT, and full profile M6 between dunaújváros and pécs for 4-5.000 AADT)

only one thing seems to me not so wise:
the base of the 2nd half of the Y is not prepared, so they have to prepare it now with explosions significantly disturbing the traffic...
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Old December 6th, 2008, 05:40 PM   #1380
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i think that everything except B8 from Rijeka to Pazin is prepared. that's probably why that section will be built after prepared one. and that part is the most complicated. between Rijeka and tunnel Učka terrain is very hared and there will be completely new motorway in future not following existing route, and between tunnel Učka and Pazin there are about 8-9 viaducts.
activities on widenning have started last month so you coudln't see it in august

i don't find it wise because they should have built full profiled motorway at least from Kanfanar to Pula. upgrading is horrible thing.
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