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Old August 1st, 2008, 09:39 PM   #301
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Oh, what would we do without Romanians?
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Old August 1st, 2008, 09:43 PM   #302
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^ Well, wyqtor is a Romanian, and he gave us a first-hand report.
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Old August 1st, 2008, 10:04 PM   #303
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It was mainly premises which were built illegally or were also premises used for commercial reasons. There were no too many problems with permanent residents considering how big was the construction.
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Old August 1st, 2008, 10:35 PM   #304
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Surely there may have been some cases of demolished buildings but as these things get great publicity in Greece it should have been widely known if the number was significant.
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I thought there was an enormous demolition...

on the maps.live.com you can see Athens in 3 DIFFERENT TIME:

on ROAD layer you can see streets that looks like maze... there is no motorway yet...
and I cant see a free corridor for a 2x3+railway corridor...

on ARIAL layer you can see the attiko odos just under construction...

and on the BIRDSEYE view you can see the opened motorway from a birds eye view
If i am not wrong the U/C part isn't Attiki odos, it's the U/C Railway Center of Acharnon.

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Old August 2nd, 2008, 12:12 AM   #305
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In fact it is the Railway Centre at Aharnes (called SKA - Syngoinoniako Kentro Aharnon in Greek)
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Old August 4th, 2008, 01:59 AM   #306
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I was looking through this thread and couldn't believe how much is being spent on the Greek motorways. I was at my house between Kavala and Salonika and couldn't believe the amount of work being put into it all. Greece definately needs new motorways as the original roads are horrendous. Absolutely beautiful. If only Britainn had the same investment and man-power put into this sort of thing for its roads and Rail Infrastructure.

I haven't been to Crete in the last 4 years. Can anyone tell me whats happening to the motorway down there?

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Old August 4th, 2008, 03:33 PM   #307
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Well you wont yet notice any huge improvements, since only parts around the cities have been constructed as motorways, but there will be an extended motorway to connect the major cities soon.
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Old August 4th, 2008, 06:08 PM   #308
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I wonder, that so many people from Greece talking about greek highways don't know anything about teo-pass details .
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Old August 4th, 2008, 11:42 PM   #309
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For detailed information about TEO Pass you may go to www.teopass.gr. There is the option to select either Greek or English language. The 'pass' consists of a transmitter. I am not sure what will happen if no more credit is available, but in the case of Attiki Odos, which uses another e-pass system, I was once in a taxi with no credit left and the barrier remained close so that the driver had to manouvre to a manned toll booth and paid the amount in cash. Presumably no warning was issued to the driver so he failed passing the e-pass gate.

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Old August 5th, 2008, 09:15 AM   #310
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That is what I wanted to know. Thank you.
So if you are using such a thing, you have to count your passings at least...

By the way how it is look like? It is a (magnetic) card? Or it is some electronic equimpent?
And how did the taxi driver brake? When you are passing at 40 or more, there won't be much time to stop down, if you run out of a credit . Especially - when there is up to 80kmh passing speed publicated on their website .
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Old August 5th, 2008, 10:26 PM   #311
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It was a small box installed behind the screen - we are talking about the Attiki Odos e-pass. The taxi driver seemed that he had suspected he was running out of credit, so he approached the gate slowly. The most difficult part was to drive some metres backwards and then to change 3 - 4 lanes in order to find a manned gate. It was midnight and just a couple of manned gates were open.
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Old August 6th, 2008, 09:22 AM   #312
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Box? And connected to a car cigarette lighter?
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Old August 6th, 2008, 05:27 PM   #313
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I do not really know if the box operates through batteries or whatever else. Some info from www.aodos.gr regarding subscriptions at Attiki Odos:

Attiki Odos was the first in Greece to introduce pioneer, electronic systems, providing quick, comfortable and value-for-money transportation to the motorway users.

Electronic toll payment is achieved bythe following means:

* e-PASS: The e-PASS electronic device is a transponder which, once placed correctly on the vehicle’s windshield, allows the vehicle to go through the specially reserved electronic toll lane, all the while respecting the Highway Code, enabling the toll system to recognise it and therefore activate the electronic toll collection procedure. This way, the toll barrier is lifted and the User’s account is automatically charged, while he/she saves time and benefits from significant discounts.
* Special Account Card: Users driving a motorcycle, truck or bus, may pay the tolls through a special account card. More specifically, users may use the Manual Toll Collection lanes and simply present their card, avoiding therefore the transaction involving cash, and benefiting from the relevant discounts.

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Is there anything else I should know?

* Your toll transactions will be charged according to the applicable pricelist of the subscription programme you have selected and the toll rate of the Attiki Odos, as may be from time to time.
* Information about you toll bill (monthly charges and itemised statement of toll passages) is provided free of charge by:
o E-mail, to the e-mail address you have stated and
o The Customer Service Centres, where you may receive a copy of your bill, either in person or through an authorised representative.
* Moreover, according to your subscription programme, you may receive the monthly invoices through the post, either free of charge or subject to a fee.
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Old August 6th, 2008, 05:53 PM   #314
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Thanks for the information!

Nice. Teo Pass, e-PASS, ...is there anything else?
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Old August 6th, 2008, 11:37 PM   #315
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At the moment only these two. However, Egnatia Odos may provide something like this when it is fully completed.
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Old August 7th, 2008, 10:23 AM   #316
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They should integrate them to a one plastic magnetic card with on/off function.
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Old August 7th, 2008, 05:57 PM   #317
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A few pictures from my trip in Greece this spring:

Exit Evzoni (border town with MK):


2x2 section just after the border:






Sorry for the bad quality. It was a rainy day and my old camera doesn't deal with darkness very well.
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Old August 7th, 2008, 07:29 PM   #318
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Don't even think about excusing yourself! Great photos!!!
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Old August 7th, 2008, 07:38 PM   #319
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Great pictures. Have not driven on that road since the collapse of Yugoslavia.

You got to love the fuel price in Greece!!


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Old August 7th, 2008, 09:04 PM   #320
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