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Old May 16th, 2007, 05:12 PM   #41
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^ Who, what or where is that?
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Old May 16th, 2007, 05:15 PM   #42
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FYROM is the official full name of Macedonia. Sometimes it is seen on maps.
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Old May 16th, 2007, 05:19 PM   #43
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^ Ok, Chris, I know. We were in the same country a decade and a half ago. Anyway, it sounds like some sort of ice cream..
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Old May 16th, 2007, 05:25 PM   #44
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^ Ok, Chris, I know. We were in the same country a decade and a half ago. Anyway, it sounds like some sort of ice cream..
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Old May 16th, 2007, 07:54 PM   #45
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Old May 16th, 2007, 10:37 PM   #46
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Not that i mind having some off-topic discussion, but i would prefer some comments on the Greek roads instead
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Old May 16th, 2007, 10:40 PM   #47
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Are there any decent online maps of Athens? I'd never look at that system so well, since lots of maps aren't that detailed.
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Old May 16th, 2007, 10:55 PM   #48
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Not that i mind having some off-topic discussion, but i would prefer some comments on the Greek roads instead
I think there is too much concrete in your motorways, the ugly concrete crashbarriers get quite common lately, i hope that bulgaria will not use them aswell. but besides that they look quite good

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Old May 16th, 2007, 11:04 PM   #49
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Nah they get really more beautiful after the construction is over and trees planted inside those barriers and in the side of the motorways, mainly to reduce the sound pollution though, but still they are ok, and i think those barriers are safer and thats why they use em.

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Are there any decent online maps of Athens? I'd never look at that system so well, since lots of maps aren't that detailed.
You can always check google earth of course though its outdated, but with a fast search i did here are some maps:

Athens traffic map(updated every 15 mins): http://www.transport.ntua.gr/map/en/

A map of greece where you can choose every region to check it more closely: http://www.alpha-omegaonline.com/map_greece.htm

I am sure there are a lot more though, but i m bored to find em now, if you really wish to find more you can check until i do.

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Old May 16th, 2007, 11:48 PM   #50
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Not that i mind having some off-topic discussion, but i would prefer some comments on the Greek roads instead
NP, just that by the "former republic of Yugoslavia", I was like "wtf"?!

Anyway, back to the juicy Greek motorways!
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Old May 17th, 2007, 01:11 AM   #51
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Road tunnels in greece, most of them are located in the new egnatia motorway, a motorway that has 100km of tunnels, anyway here is the list:

Tunnel-Length-Date of opening-Region-Province-Road

Driskos-4.581m-2005-Ipiros-Ioannina-A2-Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:4563m Section Pedini-Platania)

Metsovo-3.589m-2005-Ipiros+Thessaly-Ioannina+Trikala-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:3548m (1993). Section Metsovo-Panagia)

Port of Thessaloniki-3 398-Project-Thessaloniki-Central macedonia
(Second tube:2920m Subsea tunnel (immersed part: 2x1240))

Maliakos-3.350m-U/C-Sterea ellada-Fthiotida-E 75
(Immersed tunnel)

Dodoni-3.347m-2003-Ipiros-Ioannina-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:3347m Section Dodoni - Pedini)

Panagia(tunnel 1):2.667m-U/C-West Macedonia-Grevena-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:2665m Section Panagia-Volo)

Arachtos-2.635m-U/C-Ipiros-Ioannina-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:2620m Section Pamvotida-Arachtos Zagoria)

Knimidos-2.500m-Project-PaThe

Pangaio-2.400m-Centreal Macedonia-Seres-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:2400m Section Asprovalta - Strimonas)

Symvolon-2.360m-U/C-East Macedonia and Thrace-Kavala-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:2360m Section Eleftheropoli-Kavala West)

Vermiou-2.244m-2006-Central Macedonia-Imathia-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:2239m Section Polimilos-Veria)

Nea Anelio-2.064m-2003-Ipiros-Ioannina-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:1986m Section Peristeri - Metsovo)

Preveza,Aktio-1.570m-2002-West Greece+Ipiros-Aitolokarnania+Preveza-E 55
(Immersed tunnel)

Girokomeion-1.552m-2002-West Greece-Ahaia
(Second tube:1552m - Patra bypass)

Syrto-1.522m-2007-West Macedonia-Grevena-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:1519m Section Panagia-Volo)

Gropa-1.470m-Project-Thessaly

Rapsomatis-1.407m-U/C-Peloponisos-Arkadia-A7-E65
(Second tube:1365m Section Asea-Rapsomatis)

Tymfristos-1.385m-Sterea Ellada-Fthiotida-N38

Artemision-1.360m-Peloponisos-Argolida+Arkadia-A7,E65
(Second tube:1360m Section Neochori-Nestani)

Agios Konstantinos(S2)-1.189m-U/C-Ipiros-Ioannina-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:965m Section Eleftherochori-Tyria)

Skala Skorlinga-1.151m-Ipiros-Arta-N30

Kremno-1.096m-2003-Ipiros-Ioannina-A2-Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube: 1091 m. Section Peristeri-Metsovo)

Mesochora dam-1.050m-2005-Thessaly-Trikala(Arta - Trikala highway)-N30

Koiloma(T11)-1.042m-U/C-West Macedonia-Grevena-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:1027m Section Volo-Venetikos)

Agia Kiriaki(Pachtouri)-1.027m-14.01.2007-Thessaly-Trikala(Arta-Trikala highway)-N30

Kimis-900m-1995-Attica-Attica(Athens)

Patra-860m-1999-West Greece-Ahaia-E 65
(Second tube:790m 175 m in C&C)

Kostarakas(Kalamion)-854m-2006-Thessaly-Trikala-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:775m Section Metsovo-Panagia)

Koumaria(SN1)-850m-U/C-Ipiros-Ioannina-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:850m Section Eleftherochori-Tyria)

Venetikos-839m-2007-West Macedonia-Grevena-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:764m Section Venetikos-Grevena West)

S2-807m-2006-Ipiros-Ioannina-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second: tube:800m Section Tyria-Dodoni)

S13-802m-2006-Central Macedonia-Imathia-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:798m Section Polimilos - Veria)

Prionia(T4)-784m-U/C-West Macedonia-Grevena-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:777m Section Volo-Venetikos)

S 1-781m-2006-Central Macedonia-Imathia-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:745m Section Lefkoptera - Veria)

SN13-780m-2006-Central Macedonia-Imathia-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:780m Section Polimilos-Veria)

Dio Korifon-754m-2003-Ipiros-Ioannina-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:743m Section Peristeri-Metsovo Cut&Cover)

Agnateros (T3)-723m-U/C-West Macedonia-Grevena-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:714m Section Volo-Venetikos)

Karatsa (T12)-720m-U/C-West Macedonia-Grevena-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:713m Section Volo-Venetikos)

Grika-710m-15.12.2004-Ipiros-Thesprotia-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:657m Section Vasilsikos-Neochori)

Archeologikos-710m-2002-West Greece-Ahaia
(Second tube:710m– Patra bypass)

Antochori-705m-2003-Ipiros-Ioannina-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:704m Section Peristeri-Metsovo Cut&Cover)

S3-700m-Ipiros-Ioannina-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:700m Section Tyria-Dodoni)

Dichalorematos-700m-Project-PaThe

Velnidia(T5)-642m-U/C-West Macedonia-Grevena-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:642m Section Volo-Venetikos)

American college-640m-03.09.2003-Attica-Athens-A64-IWP
(Second tube:560m Section Dimokritos-Ag.Ioannis Kingos)

Vrilissio(Tunnel 13 TE12):580m-12.2002-Attica-Athens-A6,AO
(Cut&Cover Three parallel tubes each 580m)

Vasilsikos-560m-2003-Ipiros-Thesprotia-A2,Egnatia motorway
(Second tube:447m Section Vasilsikos-Neochori)

Vrahassi-550m-Crete-Lasithi-E 75

Neochori-530m-15.12.2004-Ipiros-Thesprotia-A2,Egnatia motorway
(Second tube:515m Section Neochori-Eleftherochori)

Votonosi-530m-2003-Ipiros-Ioannina-A2,Egnatia motorway
(Second tube:515m Section Peristeri-Metsovo Cut&Cover)

S12-522m-2006-Central Macedonia-Imathia-A2,Egnatia motorway
(Second tube:504m Section Polimilos - Veria)

Mesovouni-509m-15.12.2004-Ipiros-Thesprotia-A2,Egnatia motorway
(Second tube:496m - Section Vasilsikos-Neochori)

Tunnel 17 TE01-500m-2003-Attica-Athens(Cut&Cover)-A6,AO


There are also a lot of other tunnels with length less than 500 m , along with those the total tunnel lenght on highways in greece reaches
143 Km.

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Old May 17th, 2007, 01:15 AM   #52
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that's a load of tunnels. Maybe the equal number as in Switzerland or Austria.
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Old May 17th, 2007, 12:02 PM   #53
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ebales ta tunnels apo tin kakia skala?
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Old May 17th, 2007, 01:58 PM   #54
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Στο άθροισμα είναι όλα μέσα στη λίστα όχι, είναι λίγο πολλά βλέπεις, θα τα προσθέσω αργότερα.
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Old May 17th, 2007, 05:07 PM   #55
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30% underground? W-O-W-!-!-!
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Old May 17th, 2007, 05:27 PM   #56
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Hm i lied(mistaken) its only 7%(well not small still), its just 30% of the motorway cost, my mistake sorry for that.
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Old May 17th, 2007, 05:43 PM   #57
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Hm i lied(mistaken) its only 7%(well not small still), its just 30% of the motorway cost, my mistake sorry for that.
I just wanted say that i can´t imagine it to be 30 %, but than i saw your post, 30 percent would be exremly much, 7 percent isn´t little though but 30 percent, even in austria there aren´t 30 percent tunnels on the mtoroways.
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Old May 17th, 2007, 06:14 PM   #58
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Hehe, 30% sounded crazy but 7% is still pretty much.
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Old May 17th, 2007, 07:06 PM   #59
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Hi guys,nice thread you have here

Some very nice pics by Nickolas Lukas (airphotos.gr)









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Old May 19th, 2007, 08:38 AM   #60
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Nice pictures ofcourse Konst!
Thought id add this here too as I found it interesting. It was opened in 2002.
Aktio-Preveza Sub-sea Tunnel
The Preveza-Aktio Tunnel consists of a 910 m long immersed part and a 660 m long cut and cover part.




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