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Old April 17th, 2011, 06:08 PM   #1181
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Look at this - there is also a map with works progress
http://www.egnatia.eu/page/default.asp?id=252&la=2
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Old April 19th, 2011, 06:52 AM   #1182
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Thanks, that's what I was looking for.

On the E79 map
http://www.egnatia.eu/files/images/v...nePage_ENG.jpg
the interchanges are marked "I/C" or "I/S". What is the difference? Full vs. partial interchanges?

How far south do E79 signs go? Does they stop at the A2 interchange near Lagyna, at A2/Future A25 near Efkarpia, or somewhere in urban Thessaloniki?
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Old April 19th, 2011, 09:17 PM   #1183
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According to the Greek edition of the map, I/S refers to a couple of level junctions that may be upgraded into grade separated junctions in the future. The Kamaroto junction is at the moment used for the diverted traffic as the motorway there is still under construction.

The Promahonas junction may be left as a level junction because it is situated very close to the border and legally the border pass cannot be a motorway as there is the need to cater for non-motorway traffic (i.e. pedestrians, bicycles). But this is just a guess.

E79 should normally end at E90, so the A2/A25 interchange near Lagyna (Langadas Interchange) is its end. However, in Greece you never know; it might end everywhere the $&^*$# who erect the signs like!
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Old April 20th, 2011, 01:40 PM   #1184
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Thanks, that's what I was looking for.

On the E79 map
http://www.egnatia.eu/files/images/v...nePage_ENG.jpg
the interchanges are marked "I/C" or "I/S". What is the difference? Full vs. partial interchanges?

How far south do E79 signs go? Does they stop at the A2 interchange near Lagyna, at A2/Future A25 near Efkarpia, or somewhere in urban Thessaloniki?
Also i would like to know exactly the meaning of I/C and I/S...
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Old April 20th, 2011, 01:44 PM   #1185
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Interchange vs Intersection?
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Old April 20th, 2011, 09:20 PM   #1186
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I think Chris is right!
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Old April 21st, 2011, 11:13 PM   #1187
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What I don't understand from Greek people:
since you entered EU you have only progress, with EU money for projects like highways and
with EU integration in general.

Compare your highways from 1982 with the highways of today.

Last years, being in a global financial crisis, Greek people started riots in Athens.
What for?
A decrease in salaries after many years of growth?
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Old April 22nd, 2011, 03:01 PM   #1188
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What I don't understand from Greek people:
since you entered EU you have only progress, with EU money for projects like highways and
with EU integration in general.

Compare your highways from 1982 with the highways of today.

Last years, being in a global financial crisis, Greek people started riots in Athens.
What for?
A decrease in salaries after many years of growth?
Wait a minute, daniel... since 1982, today the Greek highways in all Greece are in better shape and secondly now we have a almost completed highways in all regions of Greece:
Egnatia in Epirus, Macedonia (north Greece) status almost completed.
A1 Athens - Thessaloniki except of Tempi valley the road is completed.
In Peloponnese: the road to Kalamata, most sections are completed, only left to constuct is towards Kalamata.
Heavy roadworks in the road Korinthos - Patra etc.
And also in Crete there is a highway: some sections are completed, some are still u/c.
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Old April 23rd, 2011, 09:25 PM   #1189
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thanks for these updates

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Old June 4th, 2011, 11:01 PM   #1190
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I read on the site Egnatia route Thessaloniki-Serres-Promachonas (A25) is 96 km. How many kilometers are in service on this route - Highway (A25) (Thessaloniki-Serres-Promachonas)? What he built? Highway which parts of it were put into use? Thanks!
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Old June 4th, 2011, 11:13 PM   #1191
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A25 was recently extended south to Nea Moudania and is now 236 kilometers long. The extension basically incorporated an existing 2x2 expressway from Thessaloniki to Nea Moudania. Few if any maps display this part as A25 yet.

It's unclear to me how much of Thessaloniki - Serres - Promachonas is actually completed. It looks like the Serres - BG border section is completed, but I'm not sure about the link through the mountains between Thessaloniki and Serres. Google Earth imagery suggests it's completed until some 15 kilometers north of A2, but the rest to Serres is missing.
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Old June 5th, 2011, 10:27 AM   #1192
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It is almost completed between Promachonas and Serres, expect the bypass of Sidirokastro. The by pass of Serres is not built and about 15 kms after that. The mountainous part, suprisingly, is 99 % completed - up to the interchange of Egnatia. Overall progress is about 60%, I guess...
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Old June 5th, 2011, 10:59 AM   #1193
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Thanks for the info @ChrisZwolle , @bozata90 !
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Old June 6th, 2011, 11:35 AM   #1194
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I want that in future years to go from Bucharest to Thessaloniki only on the highway. I'm adepts highways, to just go with the car on the highway.
We made ​​a simulation on GPS Bucharest-London route. Of the 2,600 km of highway route was 2000 km.
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Old June 6th, 2011, 11:40 AM   #1195
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Athens mini-stack (A1/A6)


Athens outer beltway (A64/A642)


Athens waterfront interchange (A1 southern terminus)
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Old June 6th, 2011, 01:55 PM   #1196
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The first photo (for those who dont know) is Athens - Lamia highway A1 and A6 or Attiki Odos (Elefsina - International Airport of Athens)
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Old June 6th, 2011, 11:52 PM   #1197
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Nice pictures
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Old June 7th, 2011, 10:43 PM   #1198
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Over the last few weeks there has been a "debate" if the southern part of Olympia Odos is numbered as A5 or as A9.

It is a fact that the 2008 motorway numbering decision allocates the number A5 for the whole western axis from Ioannina (A2) all the way up to Tsakona (A7). However, exit numbers in the Agrinio bypass indicate that counting on the A5 starts from Rio (Exit 8: Rigani / Exit 9: Kouvaras).

Also I am not sure about the full validity of the 2008 decision, as for example the A64 (signed as such since 2004), has been indicated as A61 on the same decision.

The same old story with Greek road numbering
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Does this mean that the Patra bypass isn't signed as A5 nor A9, or is it A9 and might be changed to A5?
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Old June 8th, 2011, 06:36 PM   #1200
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The last time I passed from the Patra bypass - it is quite a lot of time - the westbound was signed as (A)9 and the eastbound as (A)8 (another stupidity). They were still the old signs without the prefix A in front of the motorway numbers.

However as I have said, the much newer Agrinio bypass signs on the A5, number the exits with low numbers that easily indicate that the A5 starts from Rio (A8) and not from Tsakona (A7).

PS. I am just repeating another interesting point: The motorway signing regulations state that exit numbering follows the km point of the exit/interchange rather than to be sequentially. However, ALL Greek motorways with numbered exits (A2, A5, A6, A7, A8, A62, A64, A65) just number the exits... sequentially.
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