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Old September 18th, 2011, 11:00 PM   #1281
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@Nik the Greek: As far as I remember I saw a Shell here what was accessible from the exit, and it was just next to the motorway.

@nastyathenian Sorry for that I didn't mentioned the viaducts but it's harder to find thier names.

Btw, I'm currently working ont my next videos of national road 5 / A5 combo between A2 and the Rio - Antirrio bridge. Only thing what makes me to be that slow is the lack of time.
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Old September 28th, 2011, 02:47 PM   #1282
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National road 5(A5 at the end): Ioannina(A2) -Arta
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Old September 30th, 2011, 07:46 PM   #1283
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That's a miserable road, not a motorway.

Here is the view from a motorcycle riding on Athens Ring Road:



And this is Kakia Skala section of A8 towards Athens:


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Old October 22nd, 2011, 08:22 PM   #1284
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Some more Greek road numbering mess: These three pictures are from Ioannina. The signs indicate A2/E90/E92 as E75 and NR5 as NR92.

There are also some colouring problems. The main colour of the signs might remain blue but the motorway reference should be fully in a green patch, while premises (i.e. hospitals, airport, marina) should be in a white one, but I will not comment on these.

And there is no Roman transliteration too.
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Old October 23rd, 2011, 12:10 PM   #1285
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Here is Kakia Skala section of A8 again, this time towards Corinth. This direction has 3 long tunnels, while the opposite direction only has 2 short ones!



Katerini tunnel on A1 (actually cut & cover):


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Old October 23rd, 2011, 05:37 PM   #1286
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The way how road 92 is shown, is in a manner you hardly see in Greece. I have taken this picture near Igoumenista some years ago whre you can see road 6B in the same way.

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Old October 23rd, 2011, 06:53 PM   #1287
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The shield shown in the 3 photos I have uploaded, is the original one from 1963. The motorway signing regulations of 2003 replaced it, with a simple rectangle with blue background. It is peculiar that the 2010 edition of the Highway Code still indicates the original shield for national roads numbering (as per photo - sign Π-13).

By the way, NR92 (shown instead of NR5) is in Crete!
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Old October 23rd, 2011, 07:18 PM   #1288
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The shield shown in the 3 photos I have uploaded, is the original one from 1963. The motorway signing regulations of 2003 replaced it, with a simple rectangle with blue background. It is peculiar that the 2010 edition of the Highway Code still indicates the original shield for national roads numbering (as per photo - sign Π-13).

By the way, NR92 (shown instead of NR5) is in Crete!
Maybe the simple blue rectangle is only on motorway signs, and the other is for the non-motorway signs? I rather like the original design myself.
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Old October 23rd, 2011, 07:42 PM   #1289
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I do not understand why the markings in greece are so thin, they fade otu very fast even on new streches, I do not understand that.
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Old October 23rd, 2011, 07:43 PM   #1290
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@ForteTwo
It seems, that for the moment, this is the case. But such an arrangement seems at least stupid. But actually it does not matter as a lot of signs are wrong anyway (road numbers, shields, colours, fonts).

I like the original one, too.
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Old October 23rd, 2011, 11:48 PM   #1291
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It seems to me that Greece has a separate way of signing their motorways (German styled fonts and arrows) which is quite different from the signage on all other Greek roads.
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Old October 24th, 2011, 06:26 PM   #1292
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It is probably due to the fact that the committee for motorways signing just copied the German book without any thought for signing other roads (a system that has been existed since the early 1970s). They were paid for providing a guide for motorways, so they gave a guide for motorways only. Funny? This is very common in Greece.

The only things they changed from the German book of regulations were colour (green for motorways), the inclusion of A on the numbering shields (which some motorway signing authorities ignore) and exit numbering by the kilometer point (which all motorway signing authorities ignore).
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Old October 25th, 2011, 11:00 AM   #1293
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Surpsingly on 21 of october 30 kilometeres of the road Thessaloniki - Promachonas were give to traffic. The cost of these 30 kms were 76 million euros plus VAT. Another 22 kms will be tendered shortly.

http://ypodomes.com/show_newsid.php?news_id=8684 ( scroll down to see the map )
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Old October 25th, 2011, 11:15 AM   #1294
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That would be A25. The cost was probably so low because one carriageway already existed as national road 12.

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Old October 25th, 2011, 07:01 PM   #1295
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The particular section (Langadas - Lahanas) was constructed on an 100% new alignment to the east of existing NR12.
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Old October 25th, 2011, 08:19 PM   #1296
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A25 starts near Thessaloniki?
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Old October 25th, 2011, 08:28 PM   #1297
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The particular section (Langadas - Lahanas) was constructed on an 100% new alignment to the east of existing NR12.
Then the section that opened the 21st was not 30 kilometers long. You can't construct 30 kilometers of motorway for € 76 million, especially considering the terrain further north is mountainous. In Google Earth you can already see a section in use north of A2, perhaps as far north as Assiros which already had earthworks in 2007, which means it likely opened earlier. Lahanas is about 2/3rd through the mountains, maybe they only opened the mountain section.
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Old October 25th, 2011, 09:34 PM   #1298
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I saw again the original (Greek) article. It refers to the 30km section but quite a lot of it (north of Assiros) had been already opened before, while in fact a portion near Lahanas follows the course of former NR12 (some of it was already 2x2 without hard shoulder). So as in many cases in Greece, politicians open a small portion that concludes the project and refer to the whole project.

@Christos --> A25: BG border (Promahonas) - Lefkonas - Thessaloniki - Nea Moudania.
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Old October 26th, 2011, 10:47 PM   #1299
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Are any other maps available showing which 30 km of A25 were just completed with the latest opening? (The link with a map a few posts up gives an error.)
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Try
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