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Old September 23rd, 2013, 07:02 PM   #1681
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The last section of the Bulgarian A3 will have the (new) 'longest tunnel in the Balkans' at 10km + length so 2017 or 2018 would be a reasonable assumption. I also think the Bulgarian A3 will be over 50% complete by 2014.
E79 in BG:

total planned motorway between Sofia and GR border at Kulata 175 km:
* app. 55 km of motorways are operational
* another 56 km are currently under construction (lot 2 Dupnitsa - Blagoevgrad 37km and lot 4 Sandanski - GR border 19 km). The first should be opened in the first half of 2015, the second in the summer of 2014
* all the rest is for the period 2015-2020 because of the two tunnels, the first being 13km long, the second app. 3km. The 65 km section will be divided into 3 separate projects, the middle one with the tunnels (app. 20km long) will take longest to be completed.


E75 in MK:

Only one 28km link remains to be completed between Demir Kapija and Smokvitsa. The construction is going at a very good pace and the greek company Aktor is doing the works. Expected completion the end of 2015 or beginning of 2016.
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Old September 24th, 2013, 10:47 AM   #1682
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E79 in BG:

total planned motorway between Sofia and GR border at Kulata 175 km:
* app. 55 km of motorways are operational
* another 56 km are currently under construction (lot 2 Dupnitsa - Blagoevgrad 37km and lot 4 Sandanski - GR border 19 km). The first should be opened in the first half of 2015, the second in the summer of 2014
* all the rest is for the period 2015-2020 because of the two tunnels, the first being 13km long, the second app. 3km. The 65 km section will be divided into 3 separate projects, the middle one with the tunnels (app. 20km long) will take longest to be completed.


E75 in MK:

Only one 28km link remains to be completed between Demir Kapija and Smokvitsa. The construction is going at a very good pace and the greek company Aktor is doing the works. Expected completion the end of 2015 or beginning of 2016.
Speaking of this, what's the (updated?) deadline for A25's completion (full: from Kulata to Thessaloniki and beyond into Halkidiki)? There was little work being done last year as I remember passing trough...
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Old September 24th, 2013, 04:12 PM   #1683
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They are working now quite actively to reach Serres on the Thessaloniki side.
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Old September 24th, 2013, 07:26 PM   #1684
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How are the works on A1 motorway? It appears in Google Maps like it is finished but I'm not sure of that. There are some stretches unfinished, isn't?
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Old September 24th, 2013, 09:04 PM   #1685
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Here is a ride through a part of Leoforos Kifissou (or North-South freeway as I prefer to call it) and a part of Paraliaki Leoforos (or coastal road) in Athens. Note that heavy vehicles do not bother driving on the right lane, as provided for in the regulations!



New southern entrance to Ioannina:

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Old September 24th, 2013, 11:11 PM   #1686
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Only one 28km link remains to be completed between Demir Kapija and Smokvitsa. The construction is going at a very good pace and the greek company Aktor is doing the works. Expected completion the end of 2015 or beginning of 2016.
...which means that in 2016 only unfinished motorway stretch between Vienna and Kalamata will be Evzoni-Thessaloniki. Shame!
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Old September 24th, 2013, 11:24 PM   #1687
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Well here in the Balkans we can never plan so much ahead in time. There are many problems in every country on the CX. Serbia will have to try very hard to finish Belgrade bypass and the motorway around Grdelica by 2016, Macedonia will probably do it, but many sections do not have motorway standard on one side of the carriageways (ex. Skopje/Katlanovo-Veles) and the sections between Thess/niki and Athens may not be finished until that time as well.
Lets hope for the best! Anyways this corridor should have been finished long time ago, before the 2004 Athens Olympic games.
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Old October 6th, 2013, 06:03 PM   #1688
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Expected dates for completion of roadworks (source: www.ypodomes.com, 30.9.2013):

A1 Agia Marina – Rahes: 2015 (*)
A1 Lamia Bypass: 2015 (*)
A1 Tempi Valley and Platamonas Tunnels: 2016 (*)
A3 Xyniada – Trikala: 2016 (*)
A5 Amvrakia – Arta: 2016 (*)
A5 Antirrio – Kefalovryso: 2016 (*)
A5 Filippiada – Ioannina: 2016 (*)
A7 Kalamata Ring: December 2014
Α8 Korinthos (A7) – Patra (A5): 2016 (*)
A25 Strymoniko – Hristos: June 2014
A27 Florina – Niki (MK border): June 2014
A71 Lefktro (A7) – Sparti: June 2014
A52 Aktio – Amvrakia (Km 0-22): June 2015
A52 Aktio – Amvrakia (Km 22-27): July 2014
A52 Aktio – Amvrakia (Km27-35): March 2015
A52 Aktio – Amvrakia (Km 35-48): December 2014
A29 Koromilea – Krystallopigi (AL border): February 2015
A90 Gournes – Hersonisos: May 2015
A121 (?) Thessaloniki West Ring Road, Efkarpia (A25) – Evosmos: October 2015
A121 (?) Thessaloniki West Ring Road, Evosmos – Thessaloniki West Entrance I/C: July 2015
A121 (?) Thessaloniki West Ring Road, Thessaloniko West Entrance I/C: December 2015
A122 (?) Thessaloniki Port – A2 (alternative route): July 2014
A581 Patra Ring Road (A5) – New Port: January 2015
EO6 Volos Ring Road, Eastern Section: September 2014
EO13 Katerini Ring Road: April 2016
EO16 Arnaia Bypass: April 2016
EO16 Thermi – Galatista: August 2015
EO18 Karteri (A2) – Parga: May 2014
EO51 Ardanio (A2) – Mandra: September 2015
EO51 Mandra – Psathades: July 2014
EO65 Mavroneri – Kilkis: July 2016
EO90 Agios Nikolaos (A90) – Kalo Horio: March 2014
EO (unnumbered) Nea Moudania (A25) – Kassandra: February 2015

(*) Roadworks in suspension; awaiting restarting.
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Old October 6th, 2013, 10:39 PM   #1689
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Local roads through Parnonas mountains from Geraki, Laconia to Agios Andreas, Arcadia

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Old October 9th, 2013, 02:15 PM   #1690
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Hi ea1969,

Thanks for the deadlines.
I have a question about A25 -
this section covers this part in the map - http://goo.gl/maps/5RwZC
A25 Strymoniko – Hristos: June 2014
Right ?

And the second question - what about this almost ready for years part of A25 between [Καμαρωτό / Kato Ampelia] to [Νέο Πετρίτσι /Loutra] - you can see the road ready in google maps but it's not in operation yet http://goo.gl/maps/wbSfz

Do you have information if it will be finished or not ?

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Expected dates for completion of roadworks (source: www.ypodomes.com, 30.9.2013):

A1 Agia Marina – Rahes: 2015 (*)
A1 Lamia Bypass: 2015 (*)
A1 Tempi Valley and Platamonas Tunnels: 2016 (*)
A3 Xyniada – Trikala: 2016 (*)
A5 Amvrakia – Arta: 2016 (*)
A5 Antirrio – Kefalovryso: 2016 (*)
A5 Filippiada – Ioannina: 2016 (*)
A7 Kalamata Ring: December 2014
Α8 Korinthos (A7) – Patra (A5): 2016 (*)
A25 Strymoniko – Hristos: June 2014
A27 Florina – Niki (MK border): June 2014
A71 Lefktro (A7) – Sparti: June 2014
A52 Aktio – Amvrakia (Km 0-22): June 2015
A52 Aktio – Amvrakia (Km 22-27): July 2014
A52 Aktio – Amvrakia (Km27-35): March 2015
A52 Aktio – Amvrakia (Km 35-48): December 2014
A29 Koromilea – Krystallopigi (AL border): February 2015
A90 Gournes – Hersonisos: May 2015
A121 (?) Thessaloniki West Ring Road, Efkarpia (A25) – Evosmos: October 2015
A121 (?) Thessaloniki West Ring Road, Evosmos – Thessaloniki West Entrance I/C: July 2015
A121 (?) Thessaloniki West Ring Road, Thessaloniko West Entrance I/C: December 2015
A122 (?) Thessaloniki Port – A2 (alternative route): July 2014
A581 Patra Ring Road (A5) – New Port: January 2015
EO6 Volos Ring Road, Eastern Section: September 2014
EO13 Katerini Ring Road: April 2016
EO16 Arnaia Bypass: April 2016
EO16 Thermi – Galatista: August 2015
EO18 Karteri (A2) – Parga: May 2014
EO51 Ardanio (A2) – Mandra: September 2015
EO51 Mandra – Psathades: July 2014
EO65 Mavroneri – Kilkis: July 2016
EO90 Agios Nikolaos (A90) – Kalo Horio: March 2014
EO (unnumbered) Nea Moudania (A25) – Kassandra: February 2015

(*) Roadworks in suspension; awaiting restarting.
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Old October 9th, 2013, 05:59 PM   #1691
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Hi ea1969,

Thanks for the deadlines.
They are not deadlines, there is no chance all those roads will be under construction in 2016 never mind opened and finished. The timescales are a complete fantasy.
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Old October 9th, 2013, 06:13 PM   #1692
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@balien

I have to check it as it was not in the list. The part you mention seems to me that will be given in traffic sometime in 2014.

@sponge bob

These are deadlines as given by the authorities. Of course you are not wrong, taking into account the financing problems and then the usual delays which happen in the Balkans, it is almost certainly that in 3-4 months when a new list will have been published, the deadlines will have been pushed back once more.

I am personally sure only for the A52 and A71 project dates.
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Old October 9th, 2013, 07:06 PM   #1693
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The big problem is that the EU funds available 2007-13 and notbused by Greece will not carry fully to 2014-2020.
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Old October 9th, 2013, 07:47 PM   #1694
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And I need to add that as far as motorways are concerned there is the additional huge problem with loans from banks.
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Old October 10th, 2013, 12:11 AM   #1695
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The banks are hardly going to turn on any taps until the government expropriates all the land ( and completes all the archeology) for the concession roads. The government will also have to get EU permission to spend more than was planned from public sector funds to complete the sections under way such as the Tempi tunnels as well ( public sector includes EU funds)

Renegotiating the concessions has not even started as far as I know so There is a lot to be done to get any of those roads back under construction. The concessions will require extensions to 50 years instead of 30 etc etc.

A straightforward state built and operated road ( with EU funds helping) could be built quicker if the traffic projections hold up in any way, but the nationally important missing bits are almost all on concession roads not state roads.

All of this will take a while to resolve, the ONE thing that finally changes everything is growth in the economy ....no matter how small and no matter off a blow base, just growth. Ex Growth the funding taps are shut and the existing loans are hard to finance or refinance. The Spanish consrtuction sector ( in particular) got involved in some really stupid infrastructure concessions all over Europe, particularly from 2003-2007. This is partially what crashed their banks last year.

Until growth is bedded in for a year or two nothing can be done about banks/concessions and project financing in the private sector. Greece should spend that time getting land and archeology finally sorted on the key sections of motorway that need building, especially on the Patras - Athens - North Borders route.

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Old October 21st, 2013, 06:42 PM   #1697
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New Google Earth imagery shows the (stalled?) construction of A3 southeast of Karditsa. It looks like the new motorway will run near a reservoir. Additionally, a new high-speed rail is also seen U/C northwest of Lamia. Their routes seem to be combined northwest of Lamia, but then split in the central basin.
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Old October 26th, 2013, 12:42 AM   #1698
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The difference in quality between toll and non-toll roads is very marked in Greece, maybe more than in any other country in Europe. For example, this is the route between Elefsina and Corinth canal that was followed by a motorcycle, obviously to avoid paying toll:



If the driver were not that stingy, he would have used A8 instead:



Until 1990, the main road leading from Corinth to central and southern Peloponnese was this one:



Now, of course, we have A7 (no, the video is not in fast-forward):

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Old October 27th, 2013, 02:46 PM   #1699
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God that kid on his fancy moped should be banned from driving any vehicle for the rest of his life.

Anyway, the scenic views are as always very pretty
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Old October 27th, 2013, 11:34 PM   #1700
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I assume that you hate fast motorcycles.

Especially for you, I found 2 more videos, showing the whole route between Corinth canal and the outskirts of Athens. Just look at the speedometer.



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