Mississauga Developments - Page 6

jeicow · July 12th, 2006, 03:12 AM

^TO might be a stretch- let's focus on catching up to North York first

But I'm glad that they gave the towers a ma and pa kind of design. I was worried about two identical towers which well- would have sucked. *Hopefully* those townhouses facing onto Hurontario will be GLR now instead of the crap ones that they are building on Burnhamthorpe. I also like the way that the tower seems to be meeting the street on the 5th compared to the 4th, but that might just be because the 4th has higher standards being at a major crossroads. I guess this baby is also the reason why sales to the general public were put on hold. Anyway, let's hope it just goes up.

Bertez · July 12th, 2006, 03:17 AM

Hmm......Missy gets it's own version of the twin towers

phunky · July 12th, 2006, 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeicow

^TO might be a stretch- let's focus on catching up to North York first

But I'm glad that they gave the towers a ma and pa kind of design. I was worried about two identical towers which well- would have sucked. *Hopefully* those townhouses facing onto Hurontario will be GLR now instead of the crap ones that they are building on Burnhamthorpe. I also like the way that the tower seems to be meeting the street on the 5th compared to the 4th, but that might just be because the 4th has higher standards being at a major crossroads. I guess this baby is also the reason why sales to the general public were put on hold. Anyway, let's hope it just goes up.

of course they will go up. the demand is insane.

Martinsizon · July 12th, 2006, 08:42 PM

Going East up burnhamthorpe road, at the corner of Kariya Drive there was a sign saying site sold and map on it (i did not pay attention to it much). I dont know if this is new or old sign, can some one fill me in on it.

Martinsizon · July 12th, 2006, 08:46 PM

That great, but i wanted a new design for the 5th tower

Bertez · July 13th, 2006, 02:52 AM

In some aspects it is better to have the same type of design for both towers.....it shows that it is from the same project, as well as both towers complement each other......It is really one landmark divided into two buildings

phunky · July 13th, 2006, 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martinsizon

Going East up burnhamthorpe road, at the corner of Kariya Drive there was a sign saying site sold and map on it (i did not pay attention to it much). I dont know if this is new or old sign, can some one fill me in on it.

the sign is not new but the "SOLD" sticker on it is

i believe it's going to be commercial property. an office building probably.

Martinsizon · July 13th, 2006, 04:29 AM

nice

jeicow · July 13th, 2006, 05:52 AM

New IceDogs owner plans to move club
Majors then to fill void at Hershey Centre
Jul. 12, 2006. 10:48 PM
SUNAYA SAPURJI
SPORTS REPORTER

The Toronto St. Michael’s Majors have finally gone from playing in the OHL’s outhouse to the Dog House.

Majors owner Eugene Melnyk purchased the Mississauga IceDogs Wednesday in a deal that will ultimately move the Toronto franchise into the Hershey Centre and the IceDogs to another city.

Melnyk, who owns the NHL’s Ottawa Senators and Mississauga-based pharmaceutical giant Biovail, purchased the `Dogs from principal owner Mario Forgione for a reported price tag of $9 million. Forgione and minority owner NHL defenceman Chris Pronger originally purchased the team in 2003 for an estimated $4.2 million.

According to OHL commissioner David Branch, hockey operations of the IceDogs will be held in a “blind trust,” which will prevent any collusion. The OHL will also appoint an independent governor to oversee the IceDogs in the coming weeks.

Once the franchise is uprooted from Toronto to Mississauga, the team will likely be known as the Mississauga-St. Michael’s Majors because of Melnyk’s strong ties to his alma mater.

Melnyk has been looking for a suitable venue for his Majors to play in since purchasing that team in 2001. St. Michael’s Arena, which holds 1,600, is the smallest and most antiquated building in the league.

“(The arena) clearly was at the top of everyone’s agenda,” said Branch. “It’s been well known for some time that the current arrangements at St. Michael’s Arena were not suitable.”

Over the past five years, the Majors have been in discussions with various entities, including Varsity Arena, Maple Leaf Gardens, Beatrice IceGardens and Downsview park in order to find a suitable home for the team. More recently the team had looked at sites in both Vaughan and at Woodbine.

In the end, the most cost-effective scenario for a new arena was to displace the IceDogs and move into the eight-year-old Hershey Centre.

The Majors entered the OHL in 1997, followed by both the IceDogs and Brampton Battalion in 1998.

“I’m not so sure we would have done it any differently when you consider the dynamics that we were faced with,” said Branch of the expansion. “I think that if you could do it again, maybe you would not have wished both (teams) would have come along at the same time.”

In the meantime, the IceDogs have will have to continue operations with a brave face, knowing that their franchise for the 2006-07 season is mere window dressing for a new city.

“This is nothing against the new ownership, but it’s disappointing,” said IceDogs head coach Greg Gilbert.

“Things were said in the past that you put your trust in, and obviously that didn’t work out. But that’s business.”

According to one league source, Buffalo, N.Y. is the frontrunner for the IceDogs relocation, though the cities of Niagara Falls and North Bay have also been mentioned as possible destinations.

“I haven’t even thought about that yet, I’m just trying to digest everything that’s happened,” said Gilbert, of a possible move. “I have a three-year contract which I signed last September. Somebody’s going to have to be responsible for it.”
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Tuscani01 · July 13th, 2006, 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeicow

New IceDogs owner plans to move club
Majors then to fill void at Hershey Centre
Jul. 12, 2006. 10:48 PM
SUNAYA SAPURJI
SPORTS REPORTER

The Toronto St. Michael’s Majors have finally gone from playing in the OHL’s outhouse to the Dog House.

Majors owner Eugene Melnyk purchased the Mississauga IceDogs Wednesday in a deal that will ultimately move the Toronto franchise into the Hershey Centre and the IceDogs to another city.

Melnyk, who owns the NHL’s Ottawa Senators and Mississauga-based pharmaceutical giant Biovail, purchased the `Dogs from principal owner Mario Forgione for a reported price tag of $9 million. Forgione and minority owner NHL defenceman Chris Pronger originally purchased the team in 2003 for an estimated $4.2 million.

According to OHL commissioner David Branch, hockey operations of the IceDogs will be held in a “blind trust,” which will prevent any collusion. The OHL will also appoint an independent governor to oversee the IceDogs in the coming weeks.

Once the franchise is uprooted from Toronto to Mississauga, the team will likely be known as the Mississauga-St. Michael’s Majors because of Melnyk’s strong ties to his alma mater.

Melnyk has been looking for a suitable venue for his Majors to play in since purchasing that team in 2001. St. Michael’s Arena, which holds 1,600, is the smallest and most antiquated building in the league.

“(The arena) clearly was at the top of everyone’s agenda,” said Branch. “It’s been well known for some time that the current arrangements at St. Michael’s Arena were not suitable.”

Over the past five years, the Majors have been in discussions with various entities, including Varsity Arena, Maple Leaf Gardens, Beatrice IceGardens and Downsview park in order to find a suitable home for the team. More recently the team had looked at sites in both Vaughan and at Woodbine.

In the end, the most cost-effective scenario for a new arena was to displace the IceDogs and move into the eight-year-old Hershey Centre.

The Majors entered the OHL in 1997, followed by both the IceDogs and Brampton Battalion in 1998.

“I’m not so sure we would have done it any differently when you consider the dynamics that we were faced with,” said Branch of the expansion. “I think that if you could do it again, maybe you would not have wished both (teams) would have come along at the same time.”

In the meantime, the IceDogs have will have to continue operations with a brave face, knowing that their franchise for the 2006-07 season is mere window dressing for a new city.

“This is nothing against the new ownership, but it’s disappointing,” said IceDogs head coach Greg Gilbert.

“Things were said in the past that you put your trust in, and obviously that didn’t work out. But that’s business.”

According to one league source, Buffalo, N.Y. is the frontrunner for the IceDogs relocation, though the cities of Niagara Falls and North Bay have also been mentioned as possible destinations.

“I haven’t even thought about that yet, I’m just trying to digest everything that’s happened,” said Gilbert, of a possible move. “I have a three-year contract which I signed last September. Somebody’s going to have to be responsible for it.”
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Thats bullshit. I knew we would get screwed over in the end. Now we get stuck with an M representing our city? WHO LET THE DOGS OUT:'(

Martinsizon · July 13th, 2006, 08:46 PM

Majors!!! What a shitty name. Hopefully they change that

Atleast we are getting the Red Wolves(ABA).

jeicow · July 13th, 2006, 09:25 PM

^ Odds are they won't. Oh well, I've never paid to go to an OHL game and this won't get me either.

doady · July 14th, 2006, 04:50 AM

Personally, I would much rather spend money on tickets to an OHL game than spend money on way overpriced Leafs tickets.

Also, I tihnk Mississauga Majors sounds a lot better than Missisauga Ice Dogs. Ice Dogs is a stupid name.

jeicow · July 14th, 2006, 05:16 AM

It will likely be the "Mississauga-St. Michael’s Majors" b/c of the owners ties with St. Mike's college. The Mississauga Majors makes way more sense but when has anything sensible ever happened in the GTA?

Bertez · July 14th, 2006, 05:18 AM

haha...that's true

Dusko · July 14th, 2006, 10:53 AM

What I'd like to see is Mississauga get it's own NHL team. Can you imagine the rivalry between Toronto And Mississauga? That would be awesome.

jeicow · July 14th, 2006, 06:18 PM

^ It'd be nice but it would never happen. MLSE would never let that kinda thing happen in their market unless they owned the team, and seeing how they've been such blowhards lately I doubt they would. But it would be cool as hell if that happened. I always imagined a giant stadium or something on Eglinton, where the new Confederation extension is going. Would mean kicking people out of their homes (oops) but would be a good addition to MCC. Or the original Hershey Centre proposal in MCC would be awesome too, but I doubt either will ever become a reality.

Tuscani01 · July 14th, 2006, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeicow

^ It'd be nice but it would never happen. MLSE would never let that kinda thing happen in their market unless they owned the team, and seeing how they've been such blowhards lately I doubt they would. But it would be cool as hell if that happened. I always imagined a giant stadium or something on Eglinton, where the new Confederation extension is going. Would mean kicking people out of their homes (oops) but would be a good addition to MCC. Or the original Hershey Centre proposal in MCC would be awesome too, but I doubt either will ever become a reality.

Where was the original Hershey Centre proposal located?

Martinsizon · July 14th, 2006, 10:45 PM

http://www.mississauga.ca/ecity/down...pe&id=67600062
Check out the new Hershey Sportszone Renderings. What is this original Hershey Centre proposal look like?

Tuscani01 · July 15th, 2006, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martinsizon

http://www.mississauga.ca/ecity/down...pe&id=67600062
Check out the new Hershey Sportszone Renderings. What is this original Hershey Centre proposal look like?

It would be nice to see a little sport village develop around the Hershey Centre. Build a few nice resteraunts, cafes and bars, maybe even a club. That would make the area a place to go for the people in Mississauga. Watch the Mississauga Majors or Red Wolves, grab a bite to eat, a coffee or head to the bar to watch the Leafs play. Make it like an actual village though, where you have to walk past everything else in order to get to the Hershey Centre, or wherever it is you want to go. Parking can be around the village.

Its kind of like the AMC's in the GTA. They are all surrounded by pedestrian villages.

July 12th, 2006, 03:12 AM	#101
jeicow Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Waterloo via Mississauga Posts: 1,048 Likes (Received): 0	^TO might be a stretch- let's focus on catching up to North York first But I'm glad that they gave the towers a ma and pa kind of design. I was worried about two identical towers which well- would have sucked. Hopefully those townhouses facing onto Hurontario will be GLR now instead of the crap ones that they are building on Burnhamthorpe. I also like the way that the tower seems to be meeting the street on the 5th compared to the 4th, but that might just be because the 4th has higher standards being at a major crossroads. I guess this baby is also the reason why sales to the general public were put on hold. Anyway, let's hope it just goes up. __________________ Question - Who was the first liberal? Answer -Christopher Columbus. He left not knowing where he was going,got there not knowing where he was,left there not knowing where he’d been and did it all on borrowed money.

July 12th, 2006, 03:17 AM	#102
Bertez Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Sauga Posts: 2,218 Likes (Received): 0	Hmm......Missy gets it's own version of the twin towers __________________ ........

July 13th, 2006, 02:52 AM	#106
Bertez Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Sauga Posts: 2,218 Likes (Received): 0	In some aspects it is better to have the same type of design for both towers.....it shows that it is from the same project, as well as both towers complement each other......It is really one landmark divided into two buildings __________________ ........

July 13th, 2006, 05:52 AM	#109
jeicow Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Waterloo via Mississauga Posts: 1,048 Likes (Received): 0	Bye Bye Icedogs- Hello St. Mikes Majors New IceDogs owner plans to move club Majors then to fill void at Hershey Centre Jul. 12, 2006. 10:48 PM SUNAYA SAPURJI SPORTS REPORTER The Toronto St. Michael’s Majors have finally gone from playing in the OHL’s outhouse to the Dog House. Majors owner Eugene Melnyk purchased the Mississauga IceDogs Wednesday in a deal that will ultimately move the Toronto franchise into the Hershey Centre and the IceDogs to another city. Melnyk, who owns the NHL’s Ottawa Senators and Mississauga-based pharmaceutical giant Biovail, purchased the `Dogs from principal owner Mario Forgione for a reported price tag of $9 million. Forgione and minority owner NHL defenceman Chris Pronger originally purchased the team in 2003 for an estimated $4.2 million. According to OHL commissioner David Branch, hockey operations of the IceDogs will be held in a “blind trust,” which will prevent any collusion. The OHL will also appoint an independent governor to oversee the IceDogs in the coming weeks. Once the franchise is uprooted from Toronto to Mississauga, the team will likely be known as the Mississauga-St. Michael’s Majors because of Melnyk’s strong ties to his alma mater. Melnyk has been looking for a suitable venue for his Majors to play in since purchasing that team in 2001. St. Michael’s Arena, which holds 1,600, is the smallest and most antiquated building in the league. “(The arena) clearly was at the top of everyone’s agenda,” said Branch. “It’s been well known for some time that the current arrangements at St. Michael’s Arena were not suitable.” Over the past five years, the Majors have been in discussions with various entities, including Varsity Arena, Maple Leaf Gardens, Beatrice IceGardens and Downsview park in order to find a suitable home for the team. More recently the team had looked at sites in both Vaughan and at Woodbine. In the end, the most cost-effective scenario for a new arena was to displace the IceDogs and move into the eight-year-old Hershey Centre. The Majors entered the OHL in 1997, followed by both the IceDogs and Brampton Battalion in 1998. “I’m not so sure we would have done it any differently when you consider the dynamics that we were faced with,” said Branch of the expansion. “I think that if you could do it again, maybe you would not have wished both (teams) would have come along at the same time.” In the meantime, the IceDogs have will have to continue operations with a brave face, knowing that their franchise for the 2006-07 season is mere window dressing for a new city. “This is nothing against the new ownership, but it’s disappointing,” said IceDogs head coach Greg Gilbert. “Things were said in the past that you put your trust in, and obviously that didn’t work out. But that’s business.” According to one league source, Buffalo, N.Y. is the frontrunner for the IceDogs relocation, though the cities of Niagara Falls and North Bay have also been mentioned as possible destinations. “I haven’t even thought about that yet, I’m just trying to digest everything that’s happened,” said Gilbert, of a possible move. “I have a three-year contract which I signed last September. Somebody’s going to have to be responsible for it.” ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anyone actually care? __________________ Question - Who was the first liberal? Answer -Christopher Columbus. He left not knowing where he was going,got there not knowing where he was,left there not knowing where he’d been and did it all on borrowed money.

July 13th, 2006, 08:46 PM	#111
Martinsizon Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Mississauga Posts: 654 Likes (Received): 0	Majors!!! What a shitty name. Hopefully they change that Atleast we are getting the Red Wolves(ABA). Last edited by Martinsizon; July 13th, 2006 at 08:53 PM.

July 12th, 2006, 08:42 PM	#104
Martinsizon Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Mississauga Posts: 654 Likes (Received): 0	Going East up burnhamthorpe road, at the corner of Kariya Drive there was a sign saying site sold and map on it (i did not pay attention to it much). I dont know if this is new or old sign, can some one fill me in on it.

July 12th, 2006, 08:46 PM	#105
Martinsizon Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Mississauga Posts: 654 Likes (Received): 0	That great, but i wanted a new design for the 5th tower

July 13th, 2006, 04:29 AM	#108
Martinsizon Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Mississauga Posts: 654 Likes (Received): 0	nice

July 13th, 2006, 09:25 PM	#112
jeicow Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Waterloo via Mississauga Posts: 1,048 Likes (Received): 0	^ Odds are they won't. Oh well, I've never paid to go to an OHL game and this won't get me either. __________________ Question - Who was the first liberal? Answer -Christopher Columbus. He left not knowing where he was going,got there not knowing where he was,left there not knowing where he’d been and did it all on borrowed money.

July 14th, 2006, 04:50 AM	#113
doady Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,792 Likes (Received): 0	Personally, I would much rather spend money on tickets to an OHL game than spend money on way overpriced Leafs tickets. Also, I tihnk Mississauga Majors sounds a lot better than Missisauga Ice Dogs. Ice Dogs is a stupid name.

July 14th, 2006, 05:16 AM	#114
jeicow Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Waterloo via Mississauga Posts: 1,048 Likes (Received): 0	It will likely be the "Mississauga-St. Michael’s Majors" b/c of the owners ties with St. Mike's college. The Mississauga Majors makes way more sense but when has anything sensible ever happened in the GTA? __________________ Question - Who was the first liberal? Answer -Christopher Columbus. He left not knowing where he was going,got there not knowing where he was,left there not knowing where he’d been and did it all on borrowed money.

July 14th, 2006, 05:18 AM	#115
Bertez Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Sauga Posts: 2,218 Likes (Received): 0	haha...that's true __________________ ........

July 14th, 2006, 10:53 AM	#116
Dusko Dusko Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 135 Likes (Received): 0	What I'd like to see is Mississauga get it's own NHL team. Can you imagine the rivalry between Toronto And Mississauga? That would be awesome. __________________ My Personal Travel Photography Site: Cafetrip.com

July 14th, 2006, 06:18 PM	#117
jeicow Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Waterloo via Mississauga Posts: 1,048 Likes (Received): 0	^ It'd be nice but it would never happen. MLSE would never let that kinda thing happen in their market unless they owned the team, and seeing how they've been such blowhards lately I doubt they would. But it would be cool as hell if that happened. I always imagined a giant stadium or something on Eglinton, where the new Confederation extension is going. Would mean kicking people out of their homes (oops) but would be a good addition to MCC. Or the original Hershey Centre proposal in MCC would be awesome too, but I doubt either will ever become a reality. __________________ Question - Who was the first liberal? Answer -Christopher Columbus. He left not knowing where he was going,got there not knowing where he was,left there not knowing where he’d been and did it all on borrowed money.

July 14th, 2006, 10:45 PM	#119
Martinsizon Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Mississauga Posts: 654 Likes (Received): 0	http://www.mississauga.ca/ecity/down...pe&id=67600062 Check out the new Hershey Sportszone Renderings. What is this original Hershey Centre proposal look like?

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