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Old January 26th, 2009, 11:40 PM   #2101
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licence suspension and car impounding I agree with but i think the fine should be proportional to one's income... somewhere in europe they have that... I'd take it even further and implement this system for all cases when finces are applicable... for someone earning minimum wage a fine of 20k zl is an unjust punishment (I'd argue that in Canada too)...
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Old January 28th, 2009, 12:21 AM   #2102
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Does anyone know if the (rough route) plans for the S11 Express Road exist?
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Old January 28th, 2009, 12:40 AM   #2103
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Yes, there are plans for this road. 600 km long expressway from Kołobrzeg to Pyrzowice (where it'll connect to A1). Currently 20 km U/C (Poznań - Kórnik and Ostrów Wielkopolski bypass). However, S11 is not a priority right now and we'll have to wait a couple of years before its construction kick-starts.
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Old January 28th, 2009, 12:31 PM   #2104
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It seems like an important road though, from the industrial area of Silesia to the port of Szczecin... or is Szczecin's port not that important?
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Old January 28th, 2009, 12:43 PM   #2105
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Yup, it is a major port along with Gdańsk and Gdynia. Most of the transit will rather use A4 --> S3 though. This route is even more effective since it also provides access to Wrocław, another major city.
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Old January 28th, 2009, 05:18 PM   #2106
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When is the S3 projected to be completely finished? If it is that important, it will need to be finished soon.
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Old January 28th, 2009, 10:58 PM   #2107
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Szczecin - Gorzów: beginning of 2010
Gorzów - Zielona Góra: 2012-2013
Zielona Góra - A4: ???
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Old January 29th, 2009, 03:16 PM   #2108
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Doesn't that mean that there will be DK2-like conditions on the DK3 between Zielona Góra and the A4 when both other sections are finished?
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Old January 29th, 2009, 07:11 PM   #2109
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You mean 2 lanes with a shoulder? DK3 already has that standard.
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Old January 29th, 2009, 07:24 PM   #2110
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I meant the traffic conditions - lots of trucks through tiny villages.
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Old January 29th, 2009, 08:25 PM   #2111
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Well, it won't be THAT bad...
The S3 will reach at least Nowe Miasteczko - some 30 km south of Zielona Góra, then there is a strech of 1x2 road, but practically without small villages on the way. Then a 30-km stretch of 2x2 road to Lubin, where the traffic can split - some will go straight to Wrocław, some will continue on DK3 south to Legnica.

The part of S3 between Lubin and Legnica is the most problematic. There are huge layers of lignite (brown coal) in this area, and there is still a debate if this lignite is to be dug out. Of course it would mean total destruction of the land over there (because of strip-mining), including the roads - so it wouldn't be wise to build a new road and destroy it soon after, when the coalmine wants the land...
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Old February 1st, 2009, 04:37 AM   #2112
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I haven't read through all the threads, but I saw some jokes about it in the D-thread. Why are there ovals with PL on signs inside Poland? Do Poles not know which country they're in?
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Old February 1st, 2009, 05:10 AM   #2113
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Our law REQUIRES all motorways to indicate the border city it's leading to (usually it's a small village nobody's ever heard of and, what a coincidence, usually one which name is impossible to spell by foreigners ). So as a result, you have this tiny border crossing signed instead of a big, well-known neighbour city that's just a couple of kilometres past the border. With Schengen treaty and liquidating borders it's practically useless but, oh well...

Now about these ovals, it usually goes like this:

Jędrzychowice (PL) (DE)

and the reason (PL) is signed along with the foreign code is, again, our mighty law.
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Old February 1st, 2009, 01:35 PM   #2114
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And A4-Lubawka where will join R11 eventually... after 2015 ?
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Old February 7th, 2009, 04:42 PM   #2115
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Does anybody know the planned opening date of the A4 motorway from
Kraków to Szarów? The photos of the motorway construction on the
link provided in Wikipedia have not been uploaded since Dec 2008!
I know that the planned opening month is April 2009 but no exact date has been given! It's vital that this stretch of motorway is opened on time so that construction on extending it to Tarnów can begin as soon as it the
Kraków to Szarów section opens
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Old February 7th, 2009, 05:43 PM   #2116
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I don't think so it will be opened for deadline
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Old February 8th, 2009, 12:43 AM   #2117
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The Polish Government should impose the law of when driving 50km/h over the speedlimit, your car is impounded for 7 days, licence supspended for 7 days and up to 10,000 dl/20,000 zl fine like what we have in Canada.
ha ha ha. we shouldn't introduce the most stupid laws from foreign countries. we have the best laws the highest fine here is 1/6 of average salary. real average speed in the countryside ( no motorways) is around 105 km/h
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Old February 8th, 2009, 05:19 PM   #2118
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Can anybody give an update of when the missing links between the german border and the highway to Warsaw will be finished (from border to Scezin) and from Lodz to Warsaw?
And update of roadworks of ViaBaltica from Warsaw to Lithuanian border? TKS.
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Old February 8th, 2009, 07:24 PM   #2119
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Scezin? You mean Szczecin? When yes, then it won't be finished within nearest 5 years.

As for A2, Section Germany - Nowy Tomysl starts in april, Łódź - Warsaw maybe around spring(?).
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Old February 8th, 2009, 07:52 PM   #2120
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Łódź - Warsaw maybe around spring(?).
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