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Old July 31st, 2007, 07:43 PM   #221
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It's costly and time consuming, probably another 3-5 years will be wasted on project design, property acquisition, archeology etc.
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Old July 31st, 2007, 07:45 PM   #222
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Is it hard to re-route it?
This would be my suggestion;

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Old July 31st, 2007, 07:46 PM   #223
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^And they say western-media is objective....
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Old July 31st, 2007, 07:51 PM   #224
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Nah it's just our leftist media.

I took this pic today of a Dutch news paper called NRC Next.
Some article about Poland in the Mazuria area (former Prussia).
And this is how they display Poland;
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And we portray Mexico in the same way, saying that those that are wealthy and rich represent the 1-2% at the top while everyone else is just "getting by" relative to American standards.

See? Poland is being treated in the same light.
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Old July 31st, 2007, 07:51 PM   #225
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^And they say western-media is objective....
That's a good laugh.

No, our media sets things in only one light. Like there have to be a motorway widened, they let a pro-guy say three words about it, and then a complete interview with some environmentalist complaining about air quality and other stuff.

It's not that they tell lies, but they only view it from one side, the side they like it to be seen. There are actually very few rightwing or even center media, and if they write something, the other media always says it's bullshit because some rightwing newspaper wrote it.

So don't pay much attention to Dutch media...
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Old July 31st, 2007, 10:47 PM   #226
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It's costly and time consuming, probably another 3-5 years will be wasted on project design, property acquisition, archeology etc.
SO WHAT? People have ****ed up the planet quite a lot so let's save the nature whereever we can save it.....3-5 years and some money is nothing compared to the damage the current route causes to the nature.
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Old August 1st, 2007, 12:36 AM   #227
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SO WHAT? People have ****ed up the planet quite a lot so let's save the nature whereever we can save it.....3-5 years and some money is nothing compared to the damage the current route causes to the nature.
I agree but tell that to the people who live there in constant fear of being killed by rampaging 18 wheelers from Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia passing through the very city centre.
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Old August 1st, 2007, 11:05 AM   #228
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My alternative as posted above would take all that traffic out of Augustów. What's left of traffic is only traffic from a few villages between Augustów and Suwałki, that can't be much. After the S8 is completed, they could degradate the DK8 to a DW-road.

But i agree there has to be a motorway there, virtually all transittraffic from the Baltics to the rest of Europe travels through Augustów.
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Old August 1st, 2007, 12:11 PM   #229
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WTF? Where's the moderator?
This topic is about polish motorways...
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Yes and now typical Dutchman after reading this atricle, will think this is the how Poland looks...
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Old August 1st, 2007, 08:00 PM   #231
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WTF? Where's the moderator?
This topic is about polish motorways...
Post some pics

Well i have a question. I saw a lot of photoseries of the DK4, all signing Korczowa and stuff, but do you sign any Ukranian cities at all? Like L'viv (Lwów).
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Old August 1st, 2007, 08:39 PM   #232
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Yes and now typical Dutchman after reading this atricle, will think this is the how Poland looks...
I wouldn't give a shit about, what tipical Dutchman thinks how Poland looks like



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Schlesien wuchs hier immer in Macht und Kraft, mit dem ihm treuen Breslau.
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Old August 1st, 2007, 09:00 PM   #233
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Latest pics of construction of northern stretch of A-1


Photos by Papaj
1. old run of rd. DW226


2. Entrance in direction of Pruszcz Gd.


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4. Interestin solution. That's temporary anyway, till grass gets stong roots


5. View from viaduct WD2 in dir. WD1 i S6.


6. Dark clouds are gethering over A1 .


7. Congestion of trucks...


8. Entrance on circle in dir. of Pruszcz Gd.


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10. WD3


11. Open WD2.


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13. WD3.


14. Again WD2.


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16. About finished WD3.


17. Entrance on WD3 from Wojanow...


18. ... and from Rusocin.


19. WA4 in Zukczyn.


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22. View to the south.


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Schlesien wuchs hier immer in Macht und Kraft, mit dem ihm treuen Breslau.
Polen war nicht immer da, bleibt aber schon für immer.

Silesia always grew in strength here with faithful to her Wroclaw. Poland not always was here, but will stay here forever.

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Old August 1st, 2007, 10:10 PM   #234
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Great pics ! I believe they will end on time.
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Old August 1st, 2007, 11:49 PM   #235
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Well i have a question. I saw a lot of photoseries of the DK4, all signing Korczowa and stuff, but do you sign any Ukranian cities at all? Like L'viv (Lwów).
near border only

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expressway S11 (after 2013...)


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Old August 2nd, 2007, 12:14 AM   #236
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Well i have a question. I saw a lot of photoseries of the DK4, all signing Korczowa and stuff, but do you sign any Ukranian cities at all? Like L'viv (Lwów).
Yes, we sign Ukrainian cities. Especially Lwów (Lviv). Its name is written on all signs from Rzeszów to the border.

I live in Sanok (Podkarpacie) and on our signs is Sambor.
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Old August 2nd, 2007, 12:32 AM   #237
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great roads!
how fast can you drive on A1, A2 ?
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Old August 2nd, 2007, 07:32 AM   #238
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130 km/h In Poland there's max. speed limit of 130km/h on motorways and 110km/h on expressways.


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Old August 3rd, 2007, 10:01 PM   #239
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Elaborate. Both are prime examples of cheap labor that are willing to travel to areas where they may receive a slightly hostile response for "taking our jobs".
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What he said, basically. This isn't 1985 (which is a long time ago by European standards). While I'm no expert on Mexico-US relations and the immigration "problem" there, the images that come to mind are those of droves of people sneaking in illegally by crossing deserts and border fences and other not-so-safe ways, and that's more comparable to Africa->Europe migration IMO (which is probably even worse, it's rightly been called "Europe's shame"). That's not to say anything bad about Mexico or Africa, the difference is mostly one of trust and access and not differences.

Ok, back to motorways, I don't mean to hijack the thread here.
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SO WHAT? People have ****ed up the planet quite a lot so let's save the nature whereever we can save it.....3-5 years and some money is nothing compared to the damage the current route causes to the nature.
You've got a point there. Building motorways is probably a lot easier than building a primeval forest.
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