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Old September 10th, 2009, 10:21 AM   #3281
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I see there will be loads of savings
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Old September 10th, 2009, 07:27 PM   #3282
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Everyone can sign this petition to make Hermann Kirchner Polska Sp. z o.o., Johann BUNTE Bauunternehmung GmbH and Mostostal Warszawa SA withdraw from lodging a protest on A2 Łódź - Warszawa tender.

http://www.petycje.pl/petycjePodglad.php?petycjeid=4385

http://translate.google.pl/translate...istory_state0=

Just click Popieram petycję - jestem ZA
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Old September 10th, 2009, 08:00 PM   #3283
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Good idea ! I will sign it too
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Old September 10th, 2009, 08:03 PM   #3284
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Remember you'll recieve a mail in orcer to confirm this.
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Old September 10th, 2009, 09:43 PM   #3285
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I've signed it as well
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Old September 11th, 2009, 12:32 AM   #3286
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Signing it too!
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Old September 11th, 2009, 12:48 AM   #3287
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Already signed obviously

Interesting picture of A4 between Kraków and Szarów. There was a dozen meters long crack. Dragados company completely removed this part of motorway to build it again. You can see all layers.

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Old September 11th, 2009, 02:47 AM   #3288
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Can we see it on the map? Anyone, please.



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„Budowa drogi S-8 Wrocław – Psie Pole – Syców etap II - Oleśnica (węzeł Cieśle) – Syców (węzeł Syców Wschód)”

Information from today:

Budget – 988 620 158,20 PLN

Submitted proposals (price - 100%):

1. SKANSKA S.A. 468 662 280,21
2. MOTA – ENGIL POLSKA & MOTA – ENGIL (P) 483 838 492,03
3. BUDIMEX DROMEX & EUROVIA POLSKA 484 852 400,00
4. MOSTOSTAL Warszawa & ACCIONA INFRAESTRUCTURAS 538 944 912,99
5. HERMANN KIRCHNER Polska & STRABAG & DYWIDAG Bau GmbH & HEILIT + WOERNER Budowlana 556 236 148,75
6. ALPINE Bau GmbH & ALPINE ŚLĄSK Budowa & ABM Solid 569 576 624,87
7. J&P – AVAX S.A. 639 970 640,82
8. SRB CIVIL ENGINEERING LTD & PBG S.A. & APRIVIA 698 581 954,40


Source:www.gddkia.gov.pl
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Old September 11th, 2009, 09:05 AM   #3289
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Can we see it on the map? Anyone, please.


Look at Wrocław, then please find Oleśnica (east of Wrocław). We talk about yellow section east of Oleśnica.
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Old September 11th, 2009, 09:57 AM   #3290
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988 Mln PLN = about € 240 million. I think it's rather expensive for the Olesnica - Syców section. (budget by GDDKiA) fortunatly, bids are about 50% lower.
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Old September 11th, 2009, 06:42 PM   #3291
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Winners of a few A2 Strykow-Konotopa tenders (non-urban sections!) claimed over 10 mln EUR per km. This budget is not huge. In 2007 budgets like that were almost always too small.

PS Heroes of this post: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=3229 (H-K, Johann Bunte, Mostostal) protested against Chinese offers. Chinese companies want about 6,5 mln EUR per km.
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Old September 11th, 2009, 10:07 PM   #3292
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All protests against decisions of A2 tenders were dismissed by GDDKiA (central road administration). http://www.gddkia.gov.pl/article/inf...bbd5533cf7ca03 (unfortunately, only in Polish )
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Old September 11th, 2009, 11:37 PM   #3293
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Less maps, more construction, please.
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Old September 11th, 2009, 11:47 PM   #3294
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Grab a bulldozer or something and off you go
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Old September 11th, 2009, 11:53 PM   #3295
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Good you didn't offer me digging with my bare hands.
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Old September 12th, 2009, 09:47 AM   #3296
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Less maps, more construction, please.
Wait no more than a year, I predict ca. 1000 km to be U/C.
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Old September 12th, 2009, 11:12 AM   #3297
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Yeah, more and more tenders are coming, good!
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Old September 12th, 2009, 11:29 AM   #3298
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Given the fact that most projects are now constructed 50% under budget, what does this mean for other, low-priority projects? They have money to spare, so they could speed up the construction of roads like S6, S11 and S12.
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Old September 12th, 2009, 11:38 AM   #3299
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Sure they will as EU subsidy is only for given type of project, but I'd rather keep this money for future maintenance of toll free A and S roads, because there will be problems with it.
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Old September 12th, 2009, 01:30 PM   #3300
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It's virtual money, it doesn't exist. They will simply have to borrow less. Poland records budget deficit every year, next year it may top 50 billion PLN.

Pray to God that powers that be won't simply freeze investments to show better budget results (lower deficit). The only thing that prevents them from grabbing this virtual money pot is a possible public outcry which no doubt would lead to worse results at the polls come any election.
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