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Old September 26th, 2009, 09:07 AM   #3481
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But I don't mind my tax euros coming into good use in Poland, i.e. motorways.
Good, because it wasn't mean as a troll post. Rather a thank-you reminder.
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Old September 26th, 2009, 11:17 AM   #3482
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Do they normally build roads during winter too, or will they pause until spring?
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Old September 26th, 2009, 11:31 AM   #3483
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Do they normally build roads during winter too, or will they pause until spring?
They normally do unless it gets too cold and/or snowy.
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Old September 26th, 2009, 11:55 AM   #3484
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I wonder what the limit is because it will certainly be below zero for most of the winter in Poland. Can they work in such temperatures? Does it not affect the durability of the asphalt, etc. (expansion/contraction due to temperature differences)?
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Old September 26th, 2009, 12:09 PM   #3485
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Usually, asphalt cannot be poured in rain or during sub-zero temperatures. However, they have invented stuff like "cold asphalt" which can also be poured at lower temperatures, however, I don't know if it can be done in Polish winters, which tend to be cold. Temperatures below -20 can occur.

I thought the general winter break was from december 15th through march 15th...
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Old September 26th, 2009, 01:12 PM   #3486
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Well we had also winter in April and Novermber as well

I think in case of concrete they use some kind of heaters
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Old September 26th, 2009, 02:54 PM   #3487
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I thought the general winter break was from december 15th through march 15th...
And you were right - that's how it is according to all deals between GDDKiA and building companies. However, the companies keep working as long, as the weather conditions allow them. This way they make sure there won't be any delays.
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Old September 26th, 2009, 03:04 PM   #3488
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So, with these "24 or 36 months" construction time, 2 times 3 months winter break are included in that?
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Old September 26th, 2009, 03:10 PM   #3489
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They could still cut trees in planned road paths during winter!
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Old September 26th, 2009, 03:45 PM   #3490
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So, with these "24 or 36 months" construction time, 2 times 3 months winter break are included in that?
AFAIK, in deals like that you have to remember, that one year is only 9 months, and not 12

So for instance, if construction time is 24 months, beginning April 2010, then it ends October 2012. The company is provided with 24 "construction months" and none of those three during wintertime is counted as "construction month".
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Old September 26th, 2009, 04:11 PM   #3491
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A2 Stryków-Konotopa section

All the contracts (Design/Build) for A2 Stryków - Konotopa section will be signed on 2009-09-28 13:30. Event will take place in Ministry of Infrastructure office.

Announcement (in Polish) you may find here:

http://www.mi.gov.pl/2-482be1a920074-1791776-p_1.htm

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Old September 26th, 2009, 04:18 PM   #3492
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Our minister Grabarczyk is quite determined to get so many projects forward. Good stuff
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Old September 26th, 2009, 06:22 PM   #3493
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Will this complete the Warsaw - Lodz section?
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Old September 26th, 2009, 06:32 PM   #3494
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Yeah, by May 2012.
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Old September 26th, 2009, 06:45 PM   #3495
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Wow, this is very ambitious! What about the section border-Poznan? Is that scheduled to be completed by 2012 too?
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Old September 26th, 2009, 06:47 PM   #3496
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Wow, this is very ambitious! What about the section border-Poznan? Is that scheduled to be completed by 2012 too?
Obviously yes! The whole motorway from german border to Warsaw must be completed for EURO 2012.
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Old September 26th, 2009, 06:51 PM   #3497
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Any news or updates on when we can expect the A4 from Wieliczka to Szarów to be completed and opened for use?
The construction of this short section of motorway has gone on far too long
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Old September 26th, 2009, 06:56 PM   #3498
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That section seems to be one of the very few sections that is giving problems at the moment.
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Old September 26th, 2009, 07:07 PM   #3499
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Yeah, that's true. Good that the company building it (Dragados) has won only few tenders by now.

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The length of a road des not matter at all - it can be both 10 or 100 kms ling and the construction time will be always around 2 years. This is because you have to keep the same price for 1 km.
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Old September 26th, 2009, 07:14 PM   #3500
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So its unlikely the A4 from Wieliczka to Szarów will be open and ready for use by the end of this year?
It is good that the tendering process for continuing the A4 to Rzeszów has speeded up considerably so that work on ensuring that at least Rzeszów and
Tarnów are conneted to the motorway network can start more quickly
Rzeszów is probably the most important on the A4 east of Kraków so the sooner the two places are connected by motorway the better
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