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Old December 30th, 2007, 04:08 PM   #381
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No, it wouldn´t be good idea because it´s very moutainious land and there will be R3 anyway so why build another one...
Yep, and that's why i said:

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But a straight motorway from Budapest to the north through Slovakia? I doubt it, it goes through very natural area's, like the low tatra, fatra, slovak paradise etc.
so we have the same point of view there.
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Old December 30th, 2007, 04:18 PM   #382
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so we have the same point of view there.
That´s great! I do hope to see this plans done in my lifetime..
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Old December 30th, 2007, 04:21 PM   #383
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Some things in Poland are weird, in every country, most of them, building motorways or expressways starts from capitals Anyway, there are some dual carriageways around Warsaw
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Old December 30th, 2007, 04:33 PM   #384
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Some things in Poland are weird, in every country, most of them, building motorways or expressways starts from capitals Anyway, there are some dual carriageways around Warsaw
I don´t wanna imagine those roads during the rush hour...or during the friday around 4-5 o´clock...
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Old December 30th, 2007, 05:07 PM   #385
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http://www.siskom.waw.pl/europa.htm

Look at this, maps of the road network of the bigger european cities, and at the end Warsaw
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Old December 30th, 2007, 05:14 PM   #386
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A large number of motorway doesn't necessarily mean there is no congestion. Warszawa is probably as congested as Amsterdam, because most of Amsterdam's motorways are only 2x2 lanes at key points.

The Madrid map is quite outdated, and the London map looks like to suggest that there are a lot of motorways, which there aren't.
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Old December 30th, 2007, 05:16 PM   #387
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I actually meant the area south of that. The area between Banska Bystrica and Poprad.

But the best route is probably via Kraków - Ruzomberok - Banska Bystrica - Zvolen - Budapest
Actually, there is planned expressway Kraków - Ružomberok - Banská Bystrica - Zvolen - Budapest. Here you can download map: http://upload.skvely.sk/0Fb1DXVAaw5Q...ch_tunel--.pdf But, those plans are very messy, because there are planned two paralel expressways what is useless.
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Old December 30th, 2007, 05:40 PM   #388
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A large number of motorway doesn't necessarily mean there is no congestion. Warszawa is probably as congested as Amsterdam, because most of Amsterdam's motorways are only 2x2 lanes at key points.

The Madrid map is quite outdated, and the London map looks like to suggest that there are a lot of motorways, which there aren't.
There are just simplistic maps from some printed publications.
The point is that Warsaw is one of probably just few capital cities in Europe without connection to motorway network.
Usually most countries start constructions from capital cities.
Myself I don't complain because I’m from south and A4 motorway is far more important for me than connection with Warsaw
At least you can’t blame politicians that they build roads for themselves around capital. They are unable to do even that in Poland.
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Old December 30th, 2007, 05:47 PM   #389
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Warsaw will have an Express Ringroad, 85 km long. About 12 km of it exist already, but as National Road DK8/E67 and is dual carriage way and in future it will be expressway S8.

Here picture of already existing 12 km section

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Old December 30th, 2007, 06:26 PM   #390
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Warsaw will have an Express Ringroad, 85 km long. About 12 km of it exist already, but as National Road DK8/E67 and is dual carriage way and in future it will be expressway S8.
Well, but the answer is: we are building complex network covering whole country. There will be motorway to Warsaw, but in longer term. Whole project needs time. It's not as in China we can build 5000 km every year
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Old December 30th, 2007, 08:38 PM   #391
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True but a road from zakopane to lysa polana (border PL - SK) will be widenened and repaved starting in early 2008......
Is this information confirmed???? Can you provide an official source where you got this from???
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Old December 30th, 2007, 08:41 PM   #392
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Strange, I never heard about such road...
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Old December 30th, 2007, 09:55 PM   #393
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Is this information confirmed???? Can you provide an official source where you got this from???
I think I was mistaken. It was DK7 Rabka - Chyzne (PL-SK border) instead - 35km upgrade.
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Old December 30th, 2007, 10:56 PM   #394
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Defintely, and then straight through Slovakia to hungarian border and then to Budapest.
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Old January 2nd, 2008, 09:53 PM   #395
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So here you have the same map but with those 7000 kilometres of roads which you can see in my signature Some roads and bypasses may look different, but this map give you idea how network will look like
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Old January 2nd, 2008, 10:12 PM   #396
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When do you think all of this will be finished?
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Old January 2nd, 2008, 10:22 PM   #397
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I think about 2020, maybe around 2025
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Old January 2nd, 2008, 10:42 PM   #398
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Old January 3rd, 2008, 03:25 PM   #399
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True, this network will cover every voivodship in the counttry and I hope it will be impact for economic progress and civilisational advance
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Old January 3rd, 2008, 06:03 PM   #400
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I think about 2020, maybe around 2025
Sure, 2050, 2075 or 2890 is more likely
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