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Old July 29th, 2010, 04:51 PM   #4881
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Hi everyone, currently i'm travelling through Polska but i find one thing very annoying and i need to ask this whats with these stupid grey speed cameras? Do all of them work? They are very hard to see sometimes especially during the night and sometimes have no indication of what the speed limit is. I must've gone through at least 20 already but i don't know if i was travelling at the right speed because some signs through some towns have a sign of 70 kph then 10 metres later another sign of 50 kph comes up!!! Can you please tell me what's going on??
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Old July 29th, 2010, 04:53 PM   #4882
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A18 reconstruction has been approved (DSU)
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Old July 29th, 2010, 05:06 PM   #4883
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Hi everyone, currently i'm travelling through Polska but i find one thing very annoying and i need to ask this whats with these stupid grey speed cameras? Do all of them work? They are very hard to see sometimes especially during the night and sometimes have no indication of what the speed limit is. I must've gone through at least 20 already but i don't know if i was travelling at the right speed because some signs through some towns have a sign of 70 kph then 10 metres later another sign of 50 kph comes up!!! Can you please tell me what's going on??
Not all of them work. Actually, I believe most of them don't. The point is that the driver never knows if this specific one works or not (it changes every once in a while). The only way to make sure not to get fined is to pay attention to all the traffic signs and obey them. As simple as that. And it works not only with the speed cameras
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Old July 29th, 2010, 05:09 PM   #4884
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Hi everyone, currently i'm travelling through Polska but i find one thing very annoying and i need to ask this whats with these stupid grey speed cameras? Do all of them work? They are very hard to see sometimes especially during the night and sometimes have no indication of what the speed limit is. I must've gone through at least 20 already but i don't know if i was travelling at the right speed because some signs through some towns have a sign of 70 kph then 10 metres later another sign of 50 kph comes up!!! Can you please tell me what's going on??
They are all real but some are turned on and some are turned off. Usually you can tell the difference by looking directly at the camera's lenses (blacked out is turned off). Unfortunaly by the time you get close enough to make that distinction a picture of your car is already taken (if the camera is turned on of course). A bit of a catch 22 here.

Now if you are driving on foreign plates the chances are that you will never get any bills(I would say 99% of the time) since any printouts of photos containing foreign licence lates are basically discarted by those who look at the pictures and mail them out (the system is still based on manual labor and undergoing automatization).

So I wouldn't worry too much about it.

About the 70km/h and 50km/h few meters later. That's the whole point. That's where they will put the speed trap, you are exiting one speed zone and entering another.
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Old July 29th, 2010, 05:13 PM   #4885
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Hi everyone, currently i'm travelling through Polska but i find one thing very annoying and i need to ask this whats with these stupid grey speed cameras? Do all of them work? They are very hard to see sometimes especially during the night and sometimes have no indication of what the speed limit is. I must've gone through at least 20 already but i don't know if i was travelling at the right speed because some signs through some towns have a sign of 70 kph then 10 metres later another sign of 50 kph comes up!!! Can you please tell me what's going on??
About 1/4 of gray boxes are filled with cameras. Law enforcment changes their location on regular basis. Most dangerous location are guarded non-stop.

In nearly every town in Poland there is 50 kph limit on 1x2 streets. The "70" sign is usually used for gradual speed reduction. It's possible, that someone put these signs one after another, but it should be more than 10 meters.

If you drive carefully and according to law, nothing bad will happen to you. If not, expect expensive mail delivery...
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Old July 29th, 2010, 05:14 PM   #4886
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Now that's what I call news. After several years of going back and forth with environmentalists finally a decision is made.

This stretch of highway (south lane) is a shame of Poland. Finally they will rip it up completely.
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Old July 29th, 2010, 05:20 PM   #4887
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Poland must be a very rich country. This perfectly good looking concrete stretch of DK8 between Warsaw and Piotrkow Trybunalski will be destroyed and replaced with even smoother and newer concrete and become S8.



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Old July 29th, 2010, 09:17 PM   #4888
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Poland must be a very rich country. This perfectly good looking concrete stretch of DK8 between Warsaw and Piotrkow Trybunalski will be destroyed and replaced with even smoother and newer concrete and become S8.
It so happens that I drove this road just a couple days ago. Only a part of it looks like this. Most of it is old asphalt, with ruts and holes. Not to mention one-level intersections and pedestrian crossings.
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Old July 29th, 2010, 09:22 PM   #4889
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They (...) sometimes have no indication of what the speed limit is.
There's always some speed limit to follow
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Old July 29th, 2010, 09:37 PM   #4890
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It so happens that I drove this road just a couple days ago. Only a part of it looks like this. Most of it is old asphalt, with ruts and holes. Not to mention one-level intersections and pedestrian crossings.
I wasn't talking about the stretch made of asphalt but the one made of concrete. One-level crossings can be redesigned without the need to rip up a perfectly reasonable S-quality road.
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Old July 29th, 2010, 10:01 PM   #4891
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S11 (western bypass of Poznan) by Carte









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Old July 29th, 2010, 10:42 PM   #4892
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Poland reminds me Spain in 90's with its road construction boom
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Old July 29th, 2010, 11:57 PM   #4893
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I wasn't talking about the stretch made of asphalt but the one made of concrete. One-level crossings can be redesigned without the need to rip up a perfectly reasonable S-quality road.
Are You sure about this? I thought they will only upgrade junctions on the 'concrete' part. If it is true, what a waste of money :/.
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Old July 30th, 2010, 05:32 PM   #4894
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Poland reminds me Spain in 90's with its road construction boom
I'm waiting for a massive railway boom then.
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Old July 30th, 2010, 05:41 PM   #4895
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Roads are much more urgent right now, it's the biggest growing transport sector in Poland, and before 2005 the far majority of the Polish main roads failed to meet minimum axle load demands. Furthermore, only a small proportion of the TEN-networks were of high standard. Thousands of kilometers of A and S-roads are needed to meet the demands of a growing economy.

I'm sure we'll see some more improvements in rail later on (like happened in Spain).
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Old July 30th, 2010, 05:58 PM   #4896
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I'm waiting for a massive railway boom then.
Also waiting for the massive tax rise which is needed to fund the extra infrastructure, extra rolling stock and extra personnel (who need also a yearly increase in wages) ?
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Old July 30th, 2010, 06:02 PM   #4897
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Roads are much more urgent right now, it's the biggest growing transport sector in Poland, and before 2005 the far majority of the Polish main roads failed to meet minimum axle load demands. Furthermore, only a small proportion of the TEN-networks were of high standard. Thousands of kilometers of A and S-roads are needed to meet the demands of a growing economy.
Chris, double the bad state of polish roads before UE-enlargment and you might have a sense of the state of our rail infrastructure. Its disastrous.

Even though it is a road-centered thread and forum section, we shouldn't forget how important railways are. Especially for mobility within metropolitan areas and goods transit.
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Old July 30th, 2010, 06:25 PM   #4898
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Contract signed for a stretch of S5 between Poznan and Wroclaw (Kaczkowo – Korzeńsko.). Length is 29.3 km.

So this week ends with 1052 km of highways and expressways U/C
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Old July 30th, 2010, 11:19 PM   #4899
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Now that's what I call news. After several years of going back and forth with environmentalists finally a decision is made.

This stretch of highway (south lane) is a shame of Poland. Finally they will rip it up completely.
Excellent news about the A18 reconstruction - it is long overdue!
Goodness knows how long it will take to get rid of the current concrete slabs on the A18. Its going to take some specialist machinery to destroy the 'stairway to heaven' surface. When will reconstruction of the southbound lane begin? The A18 reconstruction is surely a priority project to complement the faster link between central Poland and Germany when the A2 is finished.
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Old July 31st, 2010, 12:23 AM   #4900
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