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Old August 17th, 2010, 03:45 PM   #4941
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I think that once all of Poland's expressways and motorways are complete its road distance signs should be revised and insignificant border villages removed and substituted for the major city outside Poland's borders to which the motorway or expressway leads to. But progress has been made with Berlin showing on A2 and A6 signs, Ostrava on A1 signs, Dresden on A4 signs so that is promising. For now its more important to get Poland's motorways and expressways up to scratch.
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Old August 17th, 2010, 06:58 PM   #4942
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That's true, I think new signs will be erected on highways and expressways, old DK (droga krajowa) can stay the way they are.
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Old August 18th, 2010, 03:03 PM   #4943
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That's true, I think new signs will be erected on highways and expressways, old DK (droga krajowa) can stay the way they are.
I agree, there is no need to change current signs on old DK roads
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Old August 24th, 2010, 11:29 PM   #4944
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This should be interesting.

Poland got an extensive update on Google Earth imagery. (Maps will follow later).



Rzeszów, Tarnów, Bielsko-Biala, Lodz, northern Poland, Silesian cities (including Katowice), Poznan, Gdansk, Szczecin, Jelenia Gora, Nowy Sacz, Kraków, Czestochowa, Radom, Kielce, Bydgoszcz, etc.
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Old August 25th, 2010, 12:58 AM   #4945
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Sweet... I'm gonna check it out now
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Old August 25th, 2010, 04:03 PM   #4946
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But now in Krakow the picture is older than it was
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Old August 25th, 2010, 08:30 PM   #4947
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I just came back from a 5-day trip to the sea side. We drove from Krakow via DK7 and came back via A1/A4. Here are the maps for both routes:

Going away:



Going back:



Speed is represented by the color (darker = faster, darkest = ~210 kph). It's funny how these two routes are quite the opposite to each other in terms of road qualities and general driving pleasure.

However, one thing I must say is: this whole country is a huge construction site. Everywhere we went, there were new roads being built. Even though there were delays and queues which made the whole drive 7 hour long, I can't wait till we hit A1 in 2012'ish.
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Old August 27th, 2010, 03:53 PM   #4948
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As I rather admired the Polish approach towards the motorways construction in the last few years (mainly on the financial and corruption level of the business) and I thought that they really managed to get rid of the schweinerei that the Czechs did not managed yet in this sector. I was merely put back to place by this news by Gazeta Wyborcza:

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The construction company on A1 brought the dolomitic gravel to the site in the day and billed it as so, however in the night it replaced the comparably expansive gravel with sand or mine waste rock... The high quality gravel was then moved forward...

I cannot really imagine how this could be done in reality to not raise suspicions. Eventually it did, and polish police documented this process yesterday night, live!

In fact this should make me admire them even more, since they at least had the guts to discover this and stop it, however I am afraid that on the czech construction sites happened many of these "cover ups" and the quality and "price" in certain parts may correspond to it.

Well done, polish police!
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Old August 27th, 2010, 04:37 PM   #4949
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It was not police that busted them but CBS which is a formation similar to the FBI in the US. CBS = Central Investigation Bureau. They orchestrated an undercover operation (or a sting) and apprehended 7 individuals working for a subcontractor company building a stretch of A1 in Bytom.

I have never heard of anything like this happen before but I am glad that certain agencies are monitoring things. It's a known fact that any major investment in Poland which is deemed "strategic" is always under a close eye of either CBS, CBA or ABW.
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Old August 28th, 2010, 10:46 AM   #4950
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It was not police that busted them but CBS which is a formation similar to the FBI in the US. CBS = Central Investigation Bureau. They orchestrated an undercover operation (or a sting) and apprehended 7 individuals working for a subcontractor company building a stretch of A1 in Bytom.

I have never heard of anything like this happen before but I am glad that certain agencies are monitoring things. It's a known fact that any major investment in Poland which is deemed "strategic" is always under a close eye of either CBS, CBA or ABW.
What are CBA and ABW?
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Old August 28th, 2010, 11:40 AM   #4951
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What are CBA and ABW?
C-c-c. How can you ask such stupid questions? CBA is a hypermarket chain:





Anyway,good for polish law enforcement authorities and agencies
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Old August 28th, 2010, 12:03 PM   #4952
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What are CBA and ABW?
websites: ABW, CBA
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Old August 28th, 2010, 12:06 PM   #4953
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What are CBA and ABW?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central...ruption_Bureau
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agencja...nętrznego
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Old August 28th, 2010, 03:10 PM   #4954
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On topic - map flooooood:

Legend
Main elements of transportation system in 2030
== motorway
-- expressway
- - oversea's connections
<|> airports

Complementation of transportation system

~~ new (roads & rails)
~ rised standard of current route in operating connection system
<||> central airport




Table 2 shows roads with standard will be raised to A- motroway, B - expressway in 2020/2030.


More maps:

Proposed Vysehrad TEN-T network:




Some users proposals: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...204801&page=79
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Old August 28th, 2010, 03:22 PM   #4955
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Collision free roads in Poland by IgorSel

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[in operation] [under construction] [contract signed] [in tender] [project&bulid] [enviromental decision]

Motorway 2x2 and up
Expressway 2x2 and up
Expressway 1x2

National roads:
Collision-free 2x2/1x2
Collisional 2x2/1x2 (level crossings etc.)

(these two can be easily rised to expresway standard)

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Old August 28th, 2010, 11:22 PM   #4956
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Will it be 2015 before A18 Olszyna-Krzywa will be an autostrada??

Then i won't be back in PL within the next 5 yrs
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Old August 28th, 2010, 11:34 PM   #4957
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But now in Krakow the picture is older than it was
Maybe older but finally its HQ! Hope Warsaw and Wroclaw get it soon too.
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Old August 31st, 2010, 05:49 AM   #4958
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Hi Ripley LV,
Great pics you've got there. I recognised the colourful bridge & the animal crossing from my trip about 2 years ago. Judging from the time & date of my photos I reckon they're near Poznan, however I can't seem to pinpoint the location on Google map. Can you help? Thanks.
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Old August 31st, 2010, 08:08 AM   #4959
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Hi Ripley LV,
Great pics you've got there. I recognised the colourful bridge & the animal crossing from my trip about 2 years ago. Judging from the time & date of my photos I reckon they're near Poznan, however I can't seem to pinpoint the location on Google map. Can you help? Thanks.
Hi, nextvkin! You couldn't pinpoint the objects on map, because you were looking in the wrong place. They both are located near a small town called Koło (~115km from Poznań). I'm giving you the link to the colourful bridge: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sour...43774&t=h&z=15
and the animal crossing: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sour...43774&t=k&z=15

Hope I helped enough.
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Old August 31st, 2010, 09:29 AM   #4960
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^ what pics?
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