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Old October 23rd, 2010, 08:01 PM   #5161
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I did a small test;

20 vehicles in 1 minute = 1.200 vehicles per hour * 12 hours = 14.400 vehicles, given that 80% of the AADT drives between 7 am and 7 pm, this gives an AADT of 18.000 vehicles per day.

18.000 AADT sounds very plausible for a road like this that just opened.
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Old October 23rd, 2010, 08:09 PM   #5162
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By the way, that guy at 1:25 was driving very fast, in 2 seconds he covered 11 road markings. If this is a 9-3 road marking (9m asphalt, 3 m marking), he traveled 138 m in 2 seconds, or 66 m/s or 237 km/h!
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Old October 23rd, 2010, 08:28 PM   #5163
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Sadly, this is possible.
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Old October 23rd, 2010, 11:48 PM   #5164
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I did a small test;

20 vehicles in 1 minute = 1.200 vehicles per hour * 12 hours = 14.400 vehicles, given that 80% of the AADT drives between 7 am and 7 pm, this gives an AADT of 18.000 vehicles per day.

18.000 AADT sounds very plausible for a road like this that just opened.
the video looks like it was made in rush hours around 7-8 am . the traffic increases enormously throughout the country at that time. can the author confirm this ? if it's true around 10.000 AADT is possible
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Old October 24th, 2010, 12:31 AM   #5165
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By the way, that guy at 1:25 was driving very fast, in 2 seconds he covered 11 road markings. If this is a 9-3 road marking (9m asphalt, 3 m marking), he traveled 138 m in 2 seconds, or 66 m/s or 237 km/h!
Actually it's 8 - 4 meters so that gives 124 m [(11 x 4m) + (10 x 8m)]. Anyway it still more than 200 kph, sadly...
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Old October 24th, 2010, 10:27 AM   #5166
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http://ssc-mapa.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/nowa-mapa.png
This map does not show the active construction works on the S8/E67 bypassing Bialystok along the northern edge of the city. The 6.4 kilometer bypass road connecting the road to Warsaw with the road to Augustow was a 2-lane single carriageway. It is being converted to a 4-lane dual carriageway. I drove through a few weeks ago and construction was well along. It appears that the works might be completed in late 2011. I'm sorry I didn't take any photographs.

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Old October 24th, 2010, 11:13 AM   #5167
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This is because this road is not an expressway, althought it might look like one.
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Old October 24th, 2010, 11:25 AM   #5168
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This is because this road is not an expressway, althought it might look like one.
Thanks. It looked like it would be an expressway after the reconstruction works are completed. What is the classification of a 4-lane dual carriageway that falls short of being classified as an expressway?
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Old October 24th, 2010, 11:35 AM   #5169
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Main road of accelerated traffic,100 km/h limit if you want it literally, I can't find any suitable equivalent of this in English.

http://translate.google.pl/translate...Droga_klasy_GP
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That is what other countries would call an expressway
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Old October 24th, 2010, 11:58 AM   #5171
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Guys, what do you think how many km do you need to build?
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Old October 24th, 2010, 12:14 PM   #5172
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Main road of accelerated traffic,100 km/h limit if you want it literally, I can't find any suitable equivalent of this in English.

http://translate.google.pl/translate...Droga_klasy_GP
If I understand correctly, the salient difference from a driver's perspective between a "main road of accelerated traffic" and an "expressway" is 100km/h versus 110km/h speed limit. Is that right? Both are signal-free dual carriageways with (at least) two lanes in each direction, right?
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Old October 24th, 2010, 12:37 PM   #5173
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If I understand correctly, the salient difference from a driver's perspective between a "main road of accelerated traffic" and an "expressway" is 100km/h versus 110km/h speed limit. Is that right? Both are signal-free dual carriageways with (at least) two lanes in each direction, right?
No, GP roads are not always signal-free, neither are they always dual carriageways.
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Old October 24th, 2010, 12:43 PM   #5174
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6 000 km ? Before 1939 we needed ~3 000km.

S3 photos by Rusonaldo

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Zapraszam na podróż po S3. Z niektórymi podczas otwarcia się spotkałem z innymi (DSzumaher) nie udało pogadać chociaż dzieliło nas jakieś 10 m. Na początek trochę fotek. Filmy będą jutro bo mają dość sporo mb i całą noc będzie się wgrywało. Droga miód malina. Czekam z niecierpliwością na 3 odcinek i na MOPy.

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Old October 24th, 2010, 12:45 PM   #5175
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No, GP roads are not always signal-free, neither are they always dual carriageways.
Hmmm. So, for the GP roads that are signal-free dual carriageways, why are they not classified as expressways?
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Old October 24th, 2010, 12:57 PM   #5176
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Hmmm. So, for the GP roads that are signal-free dual carriageways, why are they not classified as expressways?
They don't meet some of the technical requirements, which are quite restrictive. It may be anything - curve radius, distance between junctions, a steep hill...
Sometimes building a road that meets all the requirements of an expressway means as much as 150% - 170% the cost of a GP road.
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Old October 24th, 2010, 12:59 PM   #5177
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Before opening, by JacYk

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Fotki z dn.22.10.2010r.

Otwarcie odc.II

Swoją fotorelację, zacznę od węzła "Pyrzyce".

Było kilkanaście minut przed godz.12.00. Dojazd do węzła "Pyrzyce" od strony Szczecina.










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CD.



Widok, po minięciu WD-21 w kierunku Szczecina.


Teraz kierunek Gorzów.


Zbliżenia na miejsce w którym, odbyła się uroczystość otwarcia odc.II.




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CD.

Przenosimy się w Rejon WD-22. Oczywiście relacja dla kierunku Gorzów, też była jeszcze zamknięta. W prawo, kierunek Szczecin.


Obrót w lewo i widok w kierunku zabudowań OU "Pyrzyce" oraz Gorzowa.


Zbliżenie na miejsce uroczystości. W tle, WD-23.


Teraz widok z WD-22 w kierunku Szczecina i WD-21.


Zbliżenia.


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CD.

Oczywiście było wielu niecierpliwych, którzy za wszelką cenę i z upartością maniaka chcieli już przejechać po odc.II. Panowie od kierowania ruchem, musieli się wykazać dużą cierpliwością i stanowczością (wiele razy).


Tylko goście zaproszeni na uroczystość otwarcia, byli przepuszczani.






"Udekorowany", banerami WD-22. Gorzów na prawo.


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CD.

Widok z WD-22 w kierunku Gorzowa. Po lewej, zabudowania OU "Pyrzyce".


Zbliżenia w kierunku Gorzowa tj. na miejsce uroczystości otwarcia. W tle, WD-23.




Dla gości jadących od strony Szczecina, „nawrotka” była przygotowana na wysokości WD-24, jego fragment widoczny jest daleko w tle, po lewej stronie zdjęcia.


Przesunięcie w lewo, kierunek ujęcia bez zmian.


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Widok z placu OU "Pyrzyce" na miejsce uroczystości. Szczecin na prawo.


Zbliżenia.




Teraz widok z drugiej strony S3. Szczecin na lewo.


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CD.

Zbliżenie na miejsce uroczystości.


Widok z WD-23 w kierunku Pyrzyc. Szczecin na lewo.


Kontra w lewo i widok w kierunku Szczecina.


Zbliżenia.




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CD.

Przesunięcie na środek WD-23 i widok w kierunku Szczecina.


Zbliżenia.






Widok z WD-23 w kierunku Gorzowa.


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CD.

Zbliżenie w stronę granicy odc.I i II. (widać inny odcień nawierzchni, za końcem bariery po prawej stronie).


Jedziemy na uroczystość - łącznica DW122>>>Szczecin/Gorzów Wlkp.








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Nitka w kierunku Gorzowa, wjeżdżamy na WD-22.


...i już jesteśmy na S3 przed WD-22 w kierunku Gorzowa.




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They don't meet some of the technical requirements, which are quite restrictive. It may be anything - curve radius, distance between junctions, a steep hill...
Sometimes building a road that meets all the requirements of an expressway means as much as 150% - 170% the cost of a GP road.
Ok. So, there are strict requirements for a dual carriageway to be classified for 110km/h and those that fall short are classified for 100km/h. Those that meet even stricter requirements are classified (motorways) for 130km/h. Is that right?
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Old October 24th, 2010, 01:40 PM   #5179
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Ok. So, there are strict requirements for a dual carriageway to be classified for 110km/h and those that fall short are classified for 100km/h. Those that meet even stricter requirements are classified (motorways) for 130km/h. Is that right?
That is correct. Personally I think it is high time we start thinking about rising speed limits to 130km/h on expressways and 160km/h on motorways (or even getting rid of default speed limits at all). But that's probably never going to happen the way things are, climate change and all.
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Old October 24th, 2010, 01:43 PM   #5180
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That is correct. Personally I think it is high time we start thinking about rising speed limits to 130km/h on expressways and 160km/h on motorways (or even getting rid of default speed limits at all).
I agree with you 100%!

Remember, the only speed law is 300,000km/second. Everything else is just a recommendation. ;-)
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