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Old November 6th, 2010, 03:07 AM   #5281
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I believe that's a good idea, but much worse to release.

I think that it's hard to find a good name for a typical transit motorway (ie, along or across country), which cross several regions. Easier for the regional, for example:
A6 - Szczecinianka (woman born in Szczecin)
A8 - Wrocławianka (woman born in Wrocław)
A18 - Autostrada Leśna - Forest Motorway

And for S-roads came to mind such names:
S3 - Ekspresówka* Zachodnia - Western Expressway
S6 - Ekspresówka Nadmorska - Seaside Expressway.
S14 - Łodzianka (woman born in Łódź)
S17 - Ekspresówka Lubelska - Lublin Expressway
S19 - Ekspresówka Wschodnia - Eastern Expressway
S22 - Ekspresówka Rosyjska - Russian Expressway
S51 - Olsztynianka (woman born in Olsztyn)
S69 - Ekspresówka Żywiecka - Zywiec Expressway.

* term is too colloquial, but not invent a better

Personally, I think that none of Polish motorways will not receive an official name, which also will be used as a rule.

In addition Olimpijka, Gierkówka whether it would add Berlinka, Zakopianka, Rydzykówka.

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Old November 6th, 2010, 03:39 AM   #5282
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I believe that's a good idea, but much worse to release.

I think that it's hard to find a good name for a typical transit motorway (ie, along or across country), which cross several regions. Easier for the regional, for example:
A6 - Szczecinianka (woman born in Szczecin)
A8 - Wrocławianka (woman born in Wrocław)
A18 - Autostrada Leśna - Forest Motorway

And for S-roads came to mind such names:
S3 - Ekspresówka* Zachodnia - Western Expressway
S6 - Ekspresówka Nadmorska - Seaside Expressway.
S14 - Łodzianka (woman born in Łódź)
S17 - Ekspresówka Lubelska - Lublin Expressway
S19 - Ekspresówka Wschodnia - Eastern Expressway
S22 - Ekspresówka Rosyjska - Russian Expressway
S51 - Olsztynianka (woman born in Olsztyn)
S69 - Ekspresówka Żywiecka - Zywiec Expressway.

* term is too colloquial, but not invent a better

Personally, I think that none of Polish motorways will not receive an official name, which also will be used as a rule.

In addition Olimpijka, Gierkówka whether it would add Berlinka, Zakopianka, Rydzykówka.
I just didn't get it. Women born in Szczecin?

Better translation might be Szczecin's motorway, Wrocław's motorway or Motorway of Wrocław etc.

and btw, Slovak people might like this name - S3 - Ekspresówka* Zachodnia - Western Expressway - for me as Slovakian it is reminding me Motorway of Toilet (Zachod in polish means west = Toilet (Záchod) in Slovak language)
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Old November 6th, 2010, 03:56 AM   #5283
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Better translation might be Szczecin's motorway, Wrocław's motorway or Motorway of Wrocław etc.
then in Polish it would be:
Autostrada Szczecińska
Autostrada Wrocławska

I believe these two versions are too formal for the Poles, hence the idea for the name of a more colloquial.

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Women born in Szczecin?
This is a literal translation.

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Old November 6th, 2010, 04:02 AM   #5284
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then in Polish it would be:
Autostrada Szczecińska
Autostrada Wrocławska

I believe these three versions are too formal for the Poles, hence the idea for the name of a more colloquial.
I am sorry. I see now and I understand clearly.

Szczecińska/Szczecinianka makes sence. I didn't read it properly so I tought it is Szczecinianska.

but anyway - women from Szczecin ; )
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Old November 6th, 2010, 04:08 AM   #5285
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but anyway - women from Szczecin ; )
carefully:
woman from Szczecin - Szczecinianka
women from Szczecin - Szczecinianki
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Old November 6th, 2010, 10:39 AM   #5286
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Roads are female in Polish language, that's why it's Szczecinianka, not Szczecinianin, or Szczeciniątko

BTW some roads already have names, like "Zakopianka" for example.
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Old November 6th, 2010, 12:25 PM   #5287
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I guess some historical names could be in use. One example was already given (and is actually already in use) - Amber One. I don't like this particular name, but the idea of referring to the amber road is a good one.

Some roads are going to have names - like Via Baltica or Via Carpathia (but also others, outside of Poland - like Via Carolina Paris - Prague). A4 (and basically whole E40) is a somewhat modern version of the medievial Via Regia. Maybe this name could be used as well?

Then, the more modern, yet traditional names - like Gierkówka, Olimpijka, Berlinka. They won't be easily forgotten, I'm sure of that.

Anyway, I don't believe there will be any official names - and maybe it's better, considering our politics. I can already see the Kopernik motorway, the John Paul II expressroad and so on (not to mention some more controversial individuals)...

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A18 - Autostrada Leśna - Forest Motorway
This is awesome
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Old November 6th, 2010, 04:16 PM   #5288
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Looking at Google Earth, I was wondering how S2 will be build through the Ursynów area, as that area is developing rapidly and quite dense. There seems to be some kind of corridor available, but I assume they will not build it on a large viaduct between the apartment buildings.
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Old November 6th, 2010, 04:31 PM   #5289
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S2 will cross Ursynów in a 2,6km long tunnel.
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Old November 6th, 2010, 04:46 PM   #5290
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Interesting. Cut & cover I suppose? The corridor is there, I can imagine it would be too expensive to make a bored tunnel if you can use a cut & cover method as well.
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Old November 6th, 2010, 05:02 PM   #5291
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They will have to go below the existing subway tunnel, I guess it will not be possible to close it because it leads to the maintenance station. No drilling I guess, but no cut & cover either ?

Regarding the names, the A1 between Gdansk and Grudziadz is sometimes promoted as Amber One. Cool nickname for me.
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Old November 6th, 2010, 05:45 PM   #5292
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Interesting. Cut & cover I suppose? The corridor is there, I can imagine it would be too expensive to make a bored tunnel if you can use a cut & cover method as well.
I have no idea what method will be used, but I know one thing - it's going to be expensive. And given how currently there are talks about cutting infrastructure spending, we may not see S2 finished in this decade...
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Old November 6th, 2010, 05:48 PM   #5293
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Well, at least there is Trasa Siekierkowska for the time being.
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Old November 6th, 2010, 09:57 PM   #5294
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If it's not finished or under construction soon I bet this will be the major topic of the next local elections in 4 years: to complete the southern by-pass of Warsaw. All the traffic coming from S2 will be trying to get to the Trasa Siekierkowska through some bigger or smaller streets, completely blocking that part of Warsaw
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Old November 6th, 2010, 10:32 PM   #5295
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If it's not finished or under construction soon I bet this will be the major topic of the next local elections in 4 years: to complete the southern by-pass of Warsaw. All the traffic coming from S2 will be trying to get to the Trasa Siekierkowska through some bigger or smaller streets, completely blocking that part of Warsaw
nothing but the truth.

this will be a big issue. we urgently need the southern bypass. the probelm is that in road infrastructure dictionary - "urgently" means at least 4 years.
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Old November 7th, 2010, 12:58 AM   #5296
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Old November 7th, 2010, 01:31 AM   #5297
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And for S-roads came to mind such names:
S6 - Ekspresówka Nadmorska - Seaside Expressway.
How about Ekspresówka Północnia or Northern expressway? It could fit, too.
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Old November 7th, 2010, 01:00 AM   #5298
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The whole freeway hasn't to have only one name Eg. A4 in Katowice is known as Aleja Górnośląska (official name of section between ICs Mikołowska and Murckowska. Aleja Górnośląska = Upper Silesian Avenue). One part of the DTŚ freeway in Katowice is called Trasa Reńców (Renc Route).
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Old November 7th, 2010, 02:22 AM   #5299
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How about Ekspresówka Północnia or Northern expressway? It could fit, too.
A pretty good suggestion, but IMHO would be entirely suitable, if S6 passed even through Warmian-Masurian Voivodeship.
This line of thinking A4 should be called Autostrada Południowa - Southern Motorway, but I think that this name in this case would be a little expressive.

Aha, I came up with the next name for S6: Ekspresówka Pomorska - Pomeranian Expressway

PS I guess, A4 unofficially ever called Autostrada Śląska - Silesian Motorway, but then A4 through Lesser Poland and Subcarpathian Voivodeships it was a distant future.

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Old November 7th, 2010, 09:24 AM   #5300
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Good name for A4 would be Autostrada Podgórska (corresponding to Pomorska) or sth like that, you can see the mountain ranges of southern Poland almost all the time
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