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Old January 1st, 2011, 04:20 AM   #5621
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Why aren't you celebrating, Chris?

It's no petition, actual contract for this very short section of TSW has been signed. The biggest part of this contract is the "Salomea" interchange, without it two major city projects already under way (Łopuszańska interchange and Nowolazurowa) would make little sense, so that is partly very good news. Bad news is, despite what some media are claiming, this is not solving a problem of current DK7/8 through Raszyn. We'll probably have to wait some 3-4 years for the whole TSW to be built.

Interesting thing - Eurovia agreed to open this section of S8 (well, whatever number it's gonna get when it's open, probably not S8) for traffic in may 2012. So basically they will have to build a rather large junction in about a year.
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Old January 1st, 2011, 06:42 PM   #5622
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Green - under construction
Red - financing secured, contract signed, construction will begin in a month
Blue - under construction
Orange - planned extension, next stage
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Old January 3rd, 2011, 02:30 AM   #5623
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The official picture set of S-3 Szczecin - Gorzów Wielkopolski:

http://www.gddkia.gov.pl/userfiles/a...obiektywie.pdf

Lots of aerials.
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Old January 3rd, 2011, 09:31 AM   #5624
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Nice pictures, pity I don't understand any Polish. (I'm an embarrassment to my ethnicity.) It's at full motorway standards? Wow!
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Old January 3rd, 2011, 03:06 PM   #5625
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Nice pictures, pity I don't understand any Polish. (I'm an embarrassment to my ethnicity.) It's at full motorway standards? Wow!
Yes, the entire S3 from Szczecin to Gorzów Wlkp is essentially of motorway standard with two lanes on each carriageway and limited interchanges.
I'm loving the colourful and beautifully designed viaducts in the photos - it gives drivers some break in the monotiny of the flat countryside around the expressway
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Old January 4th, 2011, 12:32 PM   #5626
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Are there any traffic fatality statistics available for 2010 yet?
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Old January 4th, 2011, 12:49 PM   #5627
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Wait about a week for the full 2010 statistics.

Statistics until 11/2010 is available: ~10% less fatalities than in 2009.
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Old January 4th, 2011, 02:24 PM   #5628
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Hi all,
can someone provide an overview, how many km of highways is planned in Poland for all highways in total to be complete?
And how it looks like at the moment (how many km is completed now)?

Thanks a lot,
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U/C: 1354 km
In Use: 1602 km
Planned: 7237 km (2000km - motorway, 5237 - expressway)

These data dose not include S3 opened a few days ago.
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Old January 4th, 2011, 03:19 PM   #5629
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Pretty big pile-up has happened today on A4 in Gliwice. Apparently, the cars have driven into a really thick fog and the drivers couldn't control them becuase of the ice.

It is said that at least 40 cars participated. 2 people died, 5 heavily injured were taken to the hospital.

Some pictures from onet.pl:

http://wiadomosci.onet.pl/kiosk/kraj...l#photo8380660
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Old January 4th, 2011, 05:33 PM   #5630
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This is ridiculous!

Something should be done to warn motorists in these adverse weather conditions and if there was black ice then where the f**k were the gritters? All well and good Poland building great motorways but if there's no safety or warning in place then whats the point at all!!
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Old January 4th, 2011, 09:07 PM   #5631
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Whole problem is not because ice, not because fog etc etc etc but because of drivers. They see good road and think "hey it is soo good so I can travel as fast as they allow me in any weather conditions" and this pile-up is just result.
IT IS WINTER and for the hell, we've got eyes and one of the reasons why we could have drivers licence since we've been 18 is that we shouldn't expect that someone will always help us. (Or tell us somenthing like "Hey there is a lot of snow and ice and yeasterday temperature was above zero so today road is probably slippery". Insane!)
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Old January 4th, 2011, 09:27 PM   #5632
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Old January 4th, 2011, 10:19 PM   #5633
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There should be a Safety Car which would pick up the drivers and force them to follow him in such conditions
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Old January 4th, 2011, 10:28 PM   #5634
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The official picture set of S-3 Szczecin - Gorzów Wielkopolski:

http://www.gddkia.gov.pl/userfiles/a...obiektywie.pdf

Lots of aerials.
The guy that chooses colors for those viaducts needs to be shot.
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Old January 4th, 2011, 10:35 PM   #5635
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This is ridiculous!

Something should be done to warn motorists in these adverse weather conditions and if there was black ice then where the f**k were the gritters? All well and good Poland building great motorways but if there's no safety or warning in place then whats the point at all!!
Absolutely. Someone should tell the drivers to turn on their brains on.
Just last week I was driving down that stretch of the A4 in fog, 80 km/h tops and only because I could see the fog light of the car in front and some idiot passed with around 140 km/h.
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Old January 4th, 2011, 11:41 PM   #5636
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Do you know if and where A8 will be tolled?
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No, it definitely won't be tolled.
It turned out that it will be tolled. Never trust politicians!
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Old January 5th, 2011, 02:18 AM   #5637
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There should be a speed limit in these wintry conditions, i.e - 100kmph. And if they speed and cause an accident, then they should be banned for life, it goes without doubt that it shouldn't come to the point where people are being killed for these idiots and they get away with murder, then only to say it was bad weather bla bla bla, no excuse whatsoever.

Who ever caused this accident should be banned for life too, as anyone with common sense would drive slowly and safely.
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Old January 5th, 2011, 08:46 AM   #5638
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There should be a Safety Car which would pick up the drivers and force them to follow him in such conditions
... and someone posted at every corner to tell us when it's safe to cross the street.
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Old January 6th, 2011, 10:45 AM   #5639
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Wojewoda of Dolny Slask spoke to Minister Grabarczyk last Wednesday and he said he is very optimistic about money for S5 Wroclaw - Poznan.
There are lot of EU money that PLK is not able to use to reconstruct railways
becasue PLK don`t have ready enough projects and it`s possible to use
that money for expressways , he said today there is 4 miliard but
it can grow even to 9 miliard zloty

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Old January 6th, 2011, 04:33 PM   #5640
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Wojewoda of Dolny Slask spoke to Minister Grabarczyk last Wednesday and he said he is very optimistic about money for S5 Wroclaw - Poznan.
There are lot of EU money that PLK is not able to use to reconstruct railways
becasue PLK don`t have ready enough projects and it`s possible to use
that money for expressways , he said today there is 4 miliard but
it can grow even to 9 miliard zloty
'Miliard' ... - there is no such a word in English. It's billion
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