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Old January 20th, 2011, 07:40 PM   #5701
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I don't like those horrible green and yellow acoustic barriers on Warsaw's S8 either. When will proper construction start on Warsaw's eastern bypass - the S17? It would be good construction started this year (ie at the same time as the S2 from Konotopa to Warsaw's airport).

Soon Wrocław's A8 from the A4 interchange to its airport will open
Unfortunately it won´t be opened until the spring time. The last portion of asphalt hasn´t been laid down yet. About 10 days of favorable weather conditions is needed to do that. In addition the Lotnisko Intercharge is far from being completed. The motorway approaches and exits are not completed as yet.
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Old January 21st, 2011, 05:53 PM   #5702
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Unfortunately it won´t be opened until the spring time. The last portion of asphalt hasn´t been laid down yet. About 10 days of favorable weather conditions is needed to do that. In addition the Lotnisko Intercharge is far from being completed. The motorway approaches and exits are not completed as yet.
That's disappointing. So no new expressways or motorways in Poland will be ready for use soon?
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Old January 21st, 2011, 07:34 PM   #5703
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So since the new year, have the grey speed cameras in Poland been destroyed? And are there any new ones? I heard this will be introduced from Jan 1st.
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Old January 21st, 2011, 09:36 PM   #5704
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Why should they be 'destroyed'? Only fake speed cameras are to be removed, don't ask me why.
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Old January 21st, 2011, 10:11 PM   #5705
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Oh the fake ones are being removed, that's good. Well personally i think they cause more harm than good to others, i was driving through Poland last summer and they were so un noticed; i mean they didn't even have any warning signs of a speed camera in place like they do here in the UK. Futhermore, i wasn't always aware of the speed limit; for example, i was driving through many villages and the speed sign said 60, then changed to 40 10 metres later, i mean WTF is that about? You couldn't tell how slow to drive and when they would appear, and the grey colour scheme is appauling how can you possibly see them?! That's why i think they cause a major havoc for many road users and raising the speed limit on expressways and motorways when these unadequate road cameras are in place speaks of one extreme to the other. They cause so much anxiety among many road users that are more at risk of causing an accident by braking so sharply when one is discovered therefore increasing the chance of a road accident, if there are still some, they need to be redesigned with a better colour scheme (i.e - yellow) so they can be seen in all weather conditions and with warnings in place that one is about to take place like they do here in the UK.
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Old January 22nd, 2011, 01:14 PM   #5706
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for example, i was driving through many villages and the speed sign said 60, then changed to 40 10 metres later, i mean WTF
WTF indeed. You can also find two lane roads with 50 speed limit (no particular reason) or 40 in villiges with no one obey, and our amazing rules:


You probably need to pass driving exam in Poland to understand something.
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Old January 22nd, 2011, 03:07 PM   #5707
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You probably need to pass driving exam in Poland to understand something.
Keep cool, I can understand it without any exam passed in Poland ;-)

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Old January 22nd, 2011, 06:39 PM   #5708
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Keep cool, I can understand it without any exam passed in Poland ;-)

exam for driving licence in Poland is not a hard thing
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Old January 22nd, 2011, 07:04 PM   #5709
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exam for driving licence in Poland is not a hard thing
I think that you are wrong !
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Old January 22nd, 2011, 07:55 PM   #5710
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I think that you are wrong !
Why? This specific exam is not hard, it's avaible for everyone, even for stupid chavs(dresy). You have question's before your exam and you can learn them by hard but imo is very stupid(please don't do it!).

On exam (practical) you must be patient for other cars and pedestrians, and carefull. Your ride should be dynamic but with normal tempo, max 50km/h.

I don't why people can't passed exam.


Btw I'm very nervous(stage-fright, jitters) person and I was always panic in past, like on school presentation or "matura" speech.
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Old January 23rd, 2011, 07:55 AM   #5711
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WTF indeed. You can also find two lane roads with 50 speed limit (no particular reason) or 40 in villiges with no one obey, and our amazing rules:


You probably need to pass driving exam in Poland to understand something.
Why on earth do they want to cap some vehicles at 80 km/hr but let others go almost twice as fast? When Virginia recently upgraded the maximum speed limit from 65 to 70 MPH, (105 to 112 km/hr) something that was said was that it's more dangerous to have people driving at various speeds on the same road than it is for everyone to drive equally fast. I understand the reasoning, but why not just cap every type of vehicle at 110 km/hr?

The only place in America that I've seen different speed limits for different kinds of vehicles was in North Carolina, where Interstate 40 west of Asheville is going down a mountain and goes around a very sharp curve - cars had a 55mph limit, trucks had a 35mph limit. (For most of the length of I-40 in North Carolina, the speed limit is 70mph)
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Old January 23rd, 2011, 11:18 AM   #5712
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Trucks are generally limited to 80 - 90 km/h (50 - 55 mph) in Europe. Considering highway safety in Europe is better than in the U.S., I don't think the speed difference between vehicles is a major problem. In Germany you can pass an 80km/h truck with 200 km/h if you want to.
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Old January 23rd, 2011, 12:55 PM   #5713
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Trucks are generally limited to 80 - 90 km/h (50 - 55 mph) in Europe. Considering highway safety in Europe is better than in the U.S., I don't think the speed difference between vehicles is a major problem. In Germany you can pass an 80km/h truck with 200 km/h if you want to.
IMO, a difference in speed limits on a motorways really isn't that big of an issue but what bothers me is the 70km/h speed limit for trucks on normal 2x1 roads in Poland. That's unnecessarily low and since other traffic is moving at 90km/h, you get long queues and dangerous overtaking for most of the time.
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Old January 23rd, 2011, 02:23 PM   #5714
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That's unnecessarily low and since other traffic is moving at 90km/h, you get long queues and dangerous overtaking for most of the time.
That's 100% true. Everyone needs to overtake truck, to drive 10 or 20 km/h faster. It's even common on our roads to see someone overtaking 2-3 trucks. It's ridiculously dangerous.
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Old January 23rd, 2011, 03:08 PM   #5715
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Yes, true, I see this in Estonia quite often. Even at winter, when the speed limit for both cars and trucks is 90 km/h, people still overtake trucks. But the thing is, if the speed difference is greater you catch up with more trucks on the way, hence you have to overtake more.
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Old January 23rd, 2011, 03:40 PM   #5716
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It's not very comfortable to drive behind a truck. Even if you keep some distance, your sight is limited.
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Old January 23rd, 2011, 04:34 PM   #5717
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IMO, a difference in speed limits on a motorways really isn't that big of an issue but what bothers me is the 70km/h speed limit for trucks on normal 2x1 roads in Poland. That's unnecessarily low and since other traffic is moving at 90km/h, you get long queues and dangerous overtaking for most of the time.
The problem is, it is not like you say at all.

Trucks drive as fast as the limiter allows, so up to 90km/h. Much of the overtaking is because cars drive faster than they are allowed.

Since I began to drive 100% acording to speed limits (some one year ago) during a 400 km route I ovetake on average only two to three trucks.
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Old January 23rd, 2011, 07:59 PM   #5718
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Trucks drive as fast as the limiter allows, so up to 90km/h.
This only proves that the limit is too low. Trucks are perfectly capable of driving
safely at 90 km/h so why not abolish the low limit?
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Old January 23rd, 2011, 09:49 PM   #5719
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No, the only thing that it proves is that in Poland you don't give a shit about any regulations.

Besides, several tonnes of steel moving at 90 km/h on regular roads is not what I call safe.
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Old January 23rd, 2011, 11:28 PM   #5720
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Funilliy enough, speed limit for trucks on regular single carriageways is 70 only.

By the way, visiting Poland from time to time I see noticeable improvement in obeying traffic rules here. It's not that bad comparing to driving behaviour on our roads, let's say, ten years ago.
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