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Old March 2nd, 2011, 09:39 PM   #5821
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February was also very bad: February 2010: 152 fatalities, Feb 2011: 221 fatalities. 112 more people died in first two months of 2011 than in the same time in 2010.

Source: http://www.statystyka.policja.pl/ - Polish police site.
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Old March 3rd, 2011, 09:31 PM   #5822
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How is this possible?
Different weather?

In these months last year we had heavy winter. So it was difficult to drive fast...
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Old March 3rd, 2011, 09:34 PM   #5823
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Hence, fewer fatal crashes. The amount of crashes is higher, but the amount of fatal crashes is often lower because people drive slower.
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Old March 4th, 2011, 12:24 AM   #5824
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Old March 4th, 2011, 05:59 AM   #5825
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How is this possible?
Different weather?

In these months last year we had heavy winter. So it was difficult to drive fast...
I suppose...
Number of fatalities is smaller than in 2009: January - 327, February - 253.
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Old March 4th, 2011, 03:39 PM   #5826
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Old March 4th, 2011, 05:47 PM   #5827
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Old March 4th, 2011, 08:24 PM   #5828
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Which of these two signs indicate an urban (50 km/h) speed limit?



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Old March 4th, 2011, 08:41 PM   #5829
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Second one.

Green sign indicate only administration border of city/village, and have no effect on you as a driver.
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Old March 4th, 2011, 08:52 PM   #5830
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Signs with town names used to constitute a built-up area, but they don't anymore.
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White ones still does but they are very rare.
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Old March 4th, 2011, 10:59 PM   #5832
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No, they don't. They have not since 2006. White signs with town names should have been replaced with green ones over 5 years ago. If for some reason somewhere they haven't been, it still doesn't mean anything - according to the law only D-42 sign constitutes a built-up area.
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Old March 4th, 2011, 11:26 PM   #5833
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Old March 5th, 2011, 01:48 PM   #5834
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No, they don't. They have not since 2006. White signs with town names should have been replaced with green ones over 5 years ago. If for some reason somewhere they haven't been, it still doesn't mean anything - according to the law only D-42 sign constitutes a built-up area.
So let's sum up the mess (if I remember corectly):

* Until late 70's: it was black on yellow (German system anybody?)
* late 70's .. 1984: white on green universally
* 1984 .. 2005: black on white for built-up areas, white on green in villages (as before)
* since 2006: black silhuette on white

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Personally I don't mind changes, especially if they are supposed to bring some common standard, but that's too much for my liking. The "black on white" system was in use also in Czech Rep., and the French one isn't too far. The problem is that green once meant "built up", then not...

Was the last change necessary? The only place (Other than Poland) I've seen those signs so far was Belgium.
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Old March 5th, 2011, 02:47 PM   #5835
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No, they don't. They have not since 2006. White signs with town names should have been replaced with green ones over 5 years ago. If for some reason somewhere they haven't been, it still doesn't mean anything - according to the law only D-42 sign constitutes a built-up area.
There is still white sign with black letter in Smardzów near DK8. After 5 years

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Was the last change necessary? The only place (Other than Poland) I've seen those signs so far was Belgium.
In my opinion this new system with D-42 sign is good, easy and logic. And I don't understand why do You care about other countries.
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Old March 5th, 2011, 03:07 PM   #5836
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So let's sum up the mess (if I remember corectly):

* Until late 70's: it was black on yellow (German system anybody?)
* late 70's .. 1984: white on green universally
Uhm, are you sure?
In the commie times there was this weird rule that 'a build-up area is an area where at least three houses at most 15 metres apart from each other that are located N metres from the road' (all Poles remember the greatest comedy movie of all times, "Miś" - look at the opening scene and then at 5:10.

Are you sure that the green signs supplemented this rule? I always thought that they were merely informative, although this rule was abolished before I've even been born.
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Old March 5th, 2011, 03:12 PM   #5837
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In my opinion this new system with D-42 sign is good, easy and logic. And I don't understand why do You care about other countries.
I like this sign too. It's very important to have some standardization along road signs in Europe. Some things are different in various countries for logical reasons (like speed limits) but others are identical and it's easier if they are then signed identically too.
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Old March 5th, 2011, 03:28 PM   #5838
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I like this sign too. It's very important to have some standardization along road signs in Europe. Some things are different in various countries for logical reasons (like speed limits) but others are identical and it's easier if they are then signed identically too.
I notice that there are some different road signs in Netherlands, so maybe you need to standardize them to ours for important common good
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Old March 5th, 2011, 06:05 PM   #5839
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Was the last change necessary? The only place (Other than Poland) I've seen those signs so far was Belgium.
Similar ones are also in use in Sweden, Denmark and Finland.
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Old March 5th, 2011, 06:33 PM   #5840
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We have this signes in Romania too, but the old and regular ones mean the same thing as the new ones: inhabitated area, 50 km/h speed limit. The only (legal) difference is the design.

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