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Old May 7th, 2011, 01:57 PM   #6021
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Old May 7th, 2011, 02:15 PM   #6022
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These noise barriers are quite large for what is basically only a semi-urban area. In Western Europe you'll only find such screens in heavily urbanized areas with lots of buildings immediately along the motorway, and sometimes not even that
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Old May 7th, 2011, 02:52 PM   #6023
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These noise barriers are quite large for what is basically only a semi-urban area. In Western Europe you'll only find such screens in heavily urbanized areas with lots of buildings immediately along the motorway, and sometimes not even that
Wroclaw have really ambitious plans to expand, so in couple of years this green areas will change.
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Old May 7th, 2011, 04:24 PM   #6024
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2 questions about the A8-ring - I have been trying to read the Polish forums, but I am not sure I understand 100%:

What are the plans for the Eastern bypass around Wroclaw? Has it been designated with an S-number? I saw drawings illustrating a four lane connection at Bielany.

What is the current status of the A8 toll discussions?

Eastern bypass will be normaln DK road 2x2 - DK8 Via Romana.


A8- tollfree,
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Old May 7th, 2011, 05:37 PM   #6025
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New section of S7 near Kielce. 17 kilometrs in 48 seconds:
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Old May 7th, 2011, 05:48 PM   #6026
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When the Wroclaw bypass is completed, will E67 be signed along it, too?
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Old May 7th, 2011, 07:46 PM   #6027
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As far as I know E-numbers show on intersections with another one, for example on A4/A8 (E40/E67) interchange.
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Old May 8th, 2011, 12:24 AM   #6028
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Old May 8th, 2011, 01:17 AM   #6029
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These noise barriers are quite large for what is basically only a semi-urban area. In Western Europe you'll only find such screens in heavily urbanized areas with lots of buildings immediately along the motorway, and sometimes not even that
If I'm not mistaken nowadays regulations concerning noice are just a lot harsher than in times when many western roads were build. If GDDIK didn't have to they wouldn't build such barriers (which btw are smaller than simple barriers thanks to elliptic shape).
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Very interesting stuff! Thanks a lot, it beats my Polish reading skills trying to grasp that kind of problems - but entertaining, yes!


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1. So far there are no plans to build the eastern bypass of wroclaw as an S road. At the moment parts of it are being built as a single carriageway road, but eventually it's meant to become a dual carriageway road. From what i just read i can tell that it's gonna take at least 5/6 years for it to be completed. All bridges and viaducts are being built to hold two carriageways, right now, the bridge in Łany is almost done, a part of the bypass between Siechnica and Łany is being built. But apparently there's a problem with the connection of the bypass to A4, between Żerniki Wrocławskie and Bielany, someone didn't buy the land between them soon enough, so there's gonna be a big problem (as in bloody difficult to deal with the people) with fitting 2 carriageways there. So they changed the plan so as to connect Żerniki to Krajków, but the people of Żerniki protested, so they returned to the original idea. You know how it is We'll see what comes of all this.

2. As for the tolls, it is still unclear. For sure no PkW will have to pay, but so far it looks as though all LkW are going to have to pay with the 1st of July when electronic tolling starts. It's hard to tell whether this will change. Again, we'll wait and see what happens.
This really puzzles me, if you want the traffic routed around Wroclaw. I know Italy have toll free ring roads for the same reasons (not sure about the LKW status though). Besides extra income, I fail to see the idea? :-)

Have you seen any projected maps of the current ideas for an Eastern ring road Bielany connections? I see the challenge - not much space left! Is there a project website for the whole stretch to A8?

Going from Krakow I was wondering if there are plans to make an A4-exit east of Bielany. Routing more traffic via Bielany is just nuts - I wonder if it will ever be a smooth entry to the city again - ring road or not :-)
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Old May 9th, 2011, 02:55 PM   #6031
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These noise barriers are quite large for what is basically only a semi-urban area. In Western Europe you'll only find such screens in heavily urbanized areas with lots of buildings immediately along the motorway, and sometimes not even that
Exactly. When I see the pictures I must ask: Why so many?

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Old May 9th, 2011, 05:51 PM   #6032
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S69 Bielsko Biała - Żywiec

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A tak wygląda Wyzwolenia.

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Tam gdzie S1 kończy swoje fundusze a S69 twierdzi , że je jeszcze ma...?






Funkel nówka przystaneczek. Jeszcze ciepły.

Eko colour

Zaczajone mycie

Witosa po zolu

Schody do nieba.

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A teraz moi mili przerwa na

A1 Grudziądz - Toruń

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Bardzo dziękuję za organizację

Klika średnich fotek ode mnie.





















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No to może jeszcze jeszcze kilka zdjęć ode mnie z małymi komentarzami...

...oczekując na wszystkich mieliśmy okazję poznać kilka ciekawostek dotyczących A1, m.in., że rekordzista jechał autostradą 305 km/h oraz dlaczego minister Grabarczyk występował na budowie w odwróconym kasku i kamizelce na lewej stronie.

[IMG]http://i56.************/5khitg.jpg[/IMG]

Po pewnym czasie zbliżamy się do wejścia na lewobrzeżną estakadę:

[IMG]http://i55.************/5nrozo.jpg[/IMG]

Na estakadzie trwają obecnie prace nawierzchniowe (izolacja, układanie krawężników):

[IMG]http://i56.************/65tvo1.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i55.************/28wl44n.jpg[/IMG]

Połączenie pomiędzy estakadą i mostem głównym. Tu będzie zamontowana ważąca 18 ton dylatacja:

[IMG]http://i54.************/14a8qdh.jpg[/IMG]

Wycieczka w całej okazałości na moście:

[IMG]http://i54.************/rvio1x.jpg[/IMG]

Widok na podporę P23:

[IMG]http://i54.************/25pi7hd.jpg[/IMG]

Zwornik środkowy prawej nitki, czyli połączenie obu połówek budowanych nawisowo nad środkiem Wisły:

[IMG]http://i53.************/2v9zo06.jpg[/IMG]

Różnica wysokości obu połówek wynosiła ok. 8 cm. Została zlikwidowana przy pomocy widocznej konstrukcji belkowej:

[IMG]http://i53.************/w7g134.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i53.************/k9audh.jpg[/IMG]

Rozbierane fundamenty podpory tymczasowej P24T:

[IMG]http://i51.************/23itj4i.jpg[/IMG]

Przygotowujemy się do wejścia do wnętrza:

[IMG]http://i52.************/msyvt3.jpg[/IMG]

Wnętrze prawej nitki, widok w kierunku Torunia, prace przy zworniku południowym (połączeniu z segmentem skrajnym):

[IMG]http://i51.************/b962vp.jpg[/IMG]

Idziemy w stronę podpory P24:

[IMG]http://i53.************/30di3x4.jpg[/IMG]

Kable sprężające...

[IMG]http://i52.************/2aaebeo.jpg[/IMG]

...i urządzenie do ich napinania:

[IMG]http://i51.************/11vku2d.jpg[/IMG]

Schodzimy w stronę podpory:

[IMG]http://i53.************/w9y1z8.jpg[/IMG]

Ściana w miejscu gdzie była podpora tymczasowa P24T:

[IMG]http://i53.************/2nbvtyt.jpg[/IMG]

Wnętrze mostu nad podporą P24:

[IMG]http://i53.************/2v01mxu.jpg[/IMG]

Spojrzenie w stronę środka Wisły:

[IMG]http://i54.************/14tvb75.jpg[/IMG]

Widok z mostu na Grudziądz:

[IMG]http://i52.************/zu4413.jpg[/IMG]

Obie nitki estakady:

[IMG]http://i55.************/2ikplx3.jpg[/IMG]

Z mostu bardzo dobrze widoczny jest podjazd autostrady pod Klęczkowem i obiekty WA-98 i WD-99:

[IMG]http://i52.************/hun2ux.jpg[/IMG]

Wracamy wzdłuż budowanej autostrady...

[IMG]http://i54.************/20uvkw4.jpg[/IMG]

...obok mostu MA-89 nad Mątawą...

[IMG]http://i53.************/1zqt4k8.jpg[/IMG]

...i jedziemy prawie gotowym odcinkiem w stronę węzła Nowe Marzy:

[IMG]http://i56.************/wjudzq.jpg[/IMG]

Pozostaje jeszcze raz podziękować pani Ewie Łydkowskiej z GTC za pomoc w organizacji wycieczki oraz umożliwienie wejścia w różne dziwne miejsca, panom ze Skanski za oprowadzenie po budowie mostu i estakady oraz pracownikom Intertoll na węźle Nowe Marzy za wyczerpujące wyjaśnienia o jego pracy.

Mamy nadzieję, że nie była to ostatnia taka wycieczka...

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Most autostradowy nad Wisłą (MA-145), OUA w Grabowcu koło Torunia, wiadukt autostradowy WA-145

Obecnie trwają prace wykończeniowe na obu nitkach (zabezpieczanie powierzchni betonowych) Dodatkowo prowadzone są prace remontowe na starej nitce czyli wymiana nawierzchni, wymiana izolacji, renowacja kap chodnikowych wraz z wymianą barierek.
Nowa nitka zyskała deski gzymsowe w kolorze żółtym (podobnie jak na moście w Grudziądzu), stara nitka póki co dalej jest w barwach czerwonych ale to pewnie tylko kwestia czasu. Słupy oświetleniowe zostały przeniesione na nową nitkę mostu i zamontowane na specjalnie do tego celu stworzonych wspornikach.
Baza budowy firmy Bilfinger Berger została już zlikwidowana. Jedynie część urządzeń i elementów zaplecza zostało przeniesione na most (stara nitka).
Dobiega końca budowa OUA w Grabowcu. Wszystkie budynki są w trakcie prac wykończeniowych. Rozpoczyna się budowa hali.


Widok z wiaduktu drogowego (WD-139) w kierunku Gdańska:

... w kierunku Łodzi


Dojazd do mostu autostradowego nad Wisłą (kierunek Gdańsk)

...kierunek Lódź:


Obwód Utrzymania Autostrady w Grabowcu (budynek biurowy, bydynek z zapleczem sanitarnym (chyba), garaże, magazyn na sół oraz widoczne słupy budowanej hali). OUA w Grabowcu powstał w całości na terenie zaplecza budowy mostu z przed 15 lat. Teren jest podzielony na dwie części, pomiędzy przebiega jeden z wjazdów awaryjnych/technicznych na autostradę.









Wiadukt autostradowy (WA-144) nad DW654 (obie nitki po remoncie)


Most autostradowy nad Wisłą: (MA-145)










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Old May 9th, 2011, 10:52 PM   #6033
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Bypass of Wroclaw A8





A4/A8 Junction



A8 U/C near the stadium



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Old May 10th, 2011, 08:45 AM   #6034
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when will be A8 near the stadium opened ??
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Old May 10th, 2011, 10:52 AM   #6035
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Ummm.. Hmm? Where does that go?

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Old May 10th, 2011, 08:34 PM   #6036
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when will be A8 near the stadium opened ??
July or October, not certain yet..
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Old May 10th, 2011, 11:29 PM   #6037
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A4 east of Rzeszow towards Ukrainian border u/c:

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Old May 11th, 2011, 09:41 PM   #6038
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Are there any plans for a northern east-west motorway (kind of like the A2 and the A4 but in the north) in Poland? It could go from the border crossing near Grodno via Augustow, Elk, Olsztyn all the way to the western border. That would be pretty cool! I think the AADT would be quite large, as it would be the main route for trucks from Russia, Belarus and most of Russia to the west. At the same time it would take pressure off the A2 and the Warsaw ring road. No?
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Old May 11th, 2011, 10:19 PM   #6039
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I think the AADT would be quite large, as it would be the main route for trucks from Russia, Belarus and most of Russia to the west.
Well, first we need to build where it's urgent and average daily traffic is high at the moment.
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Old May 11th, 2011, 10:27 PM   #6040
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Are there any plans for a northern east-west motorway (kind of like the A2 and the A4 but in the north) in Poland? It could go from the border crossing near Grodno via Augustow, Elk, Olsztyn all the way to the western border. That would be pretty cool! I think the AADT would be quite large, as it would be the main route for trucks from Russia, Belarus and most of Russia to the west. At the same time it would take pressure off the A2 and the Warsaw ring road. No?
Every now and then somebody proposes to revive the concept of A6 ("Berlinka") motorway, but it's not going to happen. Traffic on E28 international route is nowhere near the amounts on E30 (A2 motorway). The part of "Berlinka" west of A1 is going to be built in the form of S6 expressway, although it is situated farther to the north than the proponents of A6 wanted (the reason is that this way it's going to service some large cities like Koszalin and Słupsk, while the proposed A6 corridor would serve only long range transit). The eastern part of this route is going to go through the southern bypass of Gdańsk (S7) and the S22 expressway (which was actually built on the remains of German-built part of "Berlinka"). The only reason to build a latitudinal motorway between, say, Grudziądz and Grodno, would be to create a secondary, Shengen-only corridor for E28. But most of transit already uses E30+E67, so there is no need for that.
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