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Old October 7th, 2011, 11:32 PM   #6801
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If you go into opposing traffic you'll be looking for headlights, not lines on the road. ;]
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Old October 8th, 2011, 02:53 PM   #6802
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Four new contracts for the construction of the S8 expressway have been signed
The contracts for four sections of the S8 expressway from the Łask junction to the connection to the A-1 motorway in the region of Rzgów of the total length of 33.5 km were signed in the Łódź branch of GDDKiA. 32 bridges and 8 large animal crossings will be built under these contracts.

Section 6 (green color on the attached map) which is 9.2 km long and includes two road junctions and a dozen of engineering facilities, is part of one contract together with the seventh section (blue color on the attached map), which is 3.6 km long and will serve as a connection between the express road S-8, and the western Pabianice ring road, i.e. the express road S-14 (Dobroń junction).

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Old October 8th, 2011, 03:32 PM   #6803
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If you go into opposing traffic you'll be looking for headlights, not lines on the road. ;]
Come to think of it, with the way people in Poland drive, I should be looking for headlights even when I'm going in the right direction.
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Old October 8th, 2011, 04:01 PM   #6804
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Come to think of it, with the way people in Poland drive, I should be looking for headlights even when I'm going in the right direction.
Yes, these you'll need for those who drive on the middle-lane on a three-lane freeways.
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Old October 8th, 2011, 04:08 PM   #6805
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Yes, these you'll need for those who drive on the middle-lane on a three-lane freeways.
I had to drive on the unpaved shoulder of a 1X1 highway at 80km/h because some jackass decided to pass a truck and I would have hit him dead-on if I didn't swerve. This happened twice on my drive from Warszawa to Bialystok. I complain about the drivers here in Toronto, but I think I have it pretty well compared to the bullshit I've seen in other countries (Jamaica is the overwhelming winner of the "dangerous and inconsiderate driver contest").
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Old October 8th, 2011, 04:09 PM   #6806
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Old October 8th, 2011, 04:55 PM   #6807
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I had to drive on the unpaved shoulder of a 1X1 highway at 80km/h because some jackass decided to pass a truck and I would have hit him dead-on if I didn't swerve. This happened twice on my drive from Warszawa to Bialystok. I complain about the drivers here in Toronto, but I think I have it pretty well compared to the bullshit I've seen in other countries (Jamaica is the overwhelming winner of the "dangerous and inconsiderate driver contest").
then Poland matches up to countries like Jamaica. A lot of drivers here suffer from road rage. In addition the quality of Polish roads and recent increase in number of cars lead to many fatalities.
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Old October 8th, 2011, 05:04 PM   #6808
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I had to drive on the unpaved shoulder of a 1X1 highway at 80km/h because some jackass decided to pass a truck and I would have hit him dead-on if I didn't swerve. This happened twice on my drive from Warszawa to Bialystok. I complain about the drivers here in Toronto, but I think I have it pretty well compared to the bullshit I've seen in other countries (Jamaica is the overwhelming winner of the "dangerous and inconsiderate driver contest").
Try driving in Pakistan. I spent several hours (as a passenger) trying to figure out whether driving was on the right side or the left side. Everyone drove right down the centre of the highway. Sometimes we swerved right for oncoming vehicles and sometimes we swerved left. It was always a game of chicken with every driver determined to make the other driver swerve first. Poland is quite civilized by comparison.

In the specific case of Warsaw to Bialystok, the risk will be reduced next year as two new sections of 2x2 expressway open.

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Old October 8th, 2011, 05:17 PM   #6809
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The number of passenger cars in Poland increased by 70% in the past 10 years. Mileage driven probably even more, yet fatalities dropped. Though Poland is still one of the worst countries in the European Union when it comes to road safety, the trend is set and will improve more in the coming years. Countries with high fatality rates are often countries which lack motorways on busy long-distance routes. Spain made phenomenal progress with traffic safety after almost all important long-distances routes were replaced by motorways. It quickly dropped from one of the worst to one of the best in Europe.
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Old October 8th, 2011, 05:24 PM   #6810
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The number of passenger cars in Poland increased by 70% in the past 10 years. Mileage driven probably even more, yet fatalities dropped. Though Poland is still one of the worst countries in the European Union when it comes to road safety, the trend is set and will improve more in the coming years. Countries with high fatality rates are often countries which lack motorways on busy long-distance routes. Spain made phenomenal progress with traffic safety after almost all important long-distances routes were replaced by motorways. It quickly dropped from one of the worst to one of the best in Europe.
No doubt. From what I've seen here on SSC, Poland is going to have excellent, modern motorways which connect all the major cities in the not- too-distant future.
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Old October 10th, 2011, 05:00 AM   #6811
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Old October 10th, 2011, 03:24 PM   #6812
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Old October 10th, 2011, 07:47 PM   #6813
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Old October 10th, 2011, 07:48 PM   #6814
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I'm pleased to see that A1 has a space reservation for 2x3 lanes
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Old October 10th, 2011, 09:19 PM   #6815
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A1 will have sprace reservation for 2x3 lanes everywhere
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Old October 10th, 2011, 09:22 PM   #6816
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I noticed many recent S-projects also have space for 2x3 lanes.
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Old October 10th, 2011, 09:50 PM   #6817
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I noticed many recent S-projects also have space for 2x3 lanes.
According to secret, never confirmed internal circular at GDDKiA (no kiddin'...), all TEN-T roads must be designed with 2x3 in the back of head. This was introduced some time after Poland joined the EU.

For example, designed bypass of Augustów, at section that will be someday S61, has also such one.
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Old October 10th, 2011, 11:10 PM   #6818
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I was in Poland last week. I hadn't been there in two years, and expected a major improvement on its roads. It was a major dissapointment. I knew the A4/E40 was completed from the German border onwards, so I went that way. Another dissapointed. Yes, it's completed - but it isn't much of a road... I wasnh't very impressed. I know they can do better then that, as they did a good job on the A4 after Wrocklaw.
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Old October 10th, 2011, 11:17 PM   #6819
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I was in Poland last week. I hadn't been there in two years, and expected a major improvement on its roads.
I'm not sure why you expected that. I drive across Poland once or twice a year. When convenient, I try to choose a route that includes either a stretch of road under construction (because I enjoy seeing the works) or a stretch that was completed since my last trip or both. However, I don't expect the overall trip to be dramatically different from one year to the next. It takes many years to build a road network. While I would be happy to see faster progress, I'm satisfied with the rate at which Poland is building new highways.
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Old October 10th, 2011, 11:17 PM   #6820
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- but it isn't much of a road...
how do you mean that? what is it then?
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